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Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems

Started by"Walsh, Ryan" <rwalsh373@g.fhsdschools.org>
First post2017-08-29 19:20 +0200
Last post2017-08-29 22:40 +0200
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  Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems "Walsh, Ryan" <rwalsh373@g.fhsdschools.org> - 2017-08-29 19:20 +0200
    Re: Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> - 2017-08-29 21:40 +0200
      Re: Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-08-29 22:40 +0200

#9458 — Linux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems

From"Walsh, Ryan" <rwalsh373@g.fhsdschools.org>
Date2017-08-29 19:20 +0200
SubjectLinux Mint Operating System V.S Other Operating Systems
Message-ID<ujSle-5rP-81@gated-at.bofh.it>

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My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I am
researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems. I
am really enjoying researching this topic and I have some questions about
Debian for research:

1. What was Debian mainly built towards accomplishing on servers?

2. What about Debian separates it from other operating systems like Ubuntu,
Mint,  or Red Hat?

3. What inspired Debian (a.k.a why did you create Debian instead of just
using another operating system?)

4. Why is Debian only on version 9 while Mint is on version 18?


Thank you for your time!

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#9464

From"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk>
Date2017-08-29 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<ujUwF-6Me-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9458
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:01:52PM -0500, Walsh, Ryan wrote:
> My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I am
> researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems. I
> am really enjoying researching this topic and I have some questions about
> Debian for research:
> 
> 1. What was Debian mainly built towards accomplishing on servers?

Debian is the second oldest Linux distribution after Slackware. It runs
on many machine types and is intended as "the universal operating
system" Not just for servers, but for desktops, supercomputers, small
ARM based boards ...

> 
> 2. What about Debian separates it from other operating systems like Ubuntu,
> Mint,  or Red Hat?

Non commercial. Debian is the ancestor distribution for Ubuntu and
therefore for all other Ubuntu-derived distributions like Mint.

Red Hat is a commercial distribution based on RPM package format.

Debian policy and packaging guidelines make Debian more consistent

> 
> 3. What inspired Debian (a.k.a why did you create Debian instead of just
> using another operating system?)

It preceded most other Linux distributions. Linux kernel is 26 years
old, Debian is 24.
> 
> 4. Why is Debian only on version 9 while Mint is on version 18?
> 

Version numbering is a whole other question :) You'll find that each 
distribution does things slightly differently - Ubuntu is date based,
for example.

> 
> Thank you for your time!

No problem - but these sorts of questions would be better asked on
debian-user as a mailing list. Debian-project is usually used for
project wide announcements and similar

[I used to co-maintain one of the Distributions HOWTO documents for the
Linux Documentation Project]

All the very best

Andrew Cater

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#9465

FromCindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com>
Date2017-08-29 22:40 +0200
Message-ID<ujVsK-7lK-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#9464
On 8/29/17, Andrew M.A. Cater <amacater@galactic.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:01:52PM -0500, Walsh, Ryan wrote:
>> My name is Ryan Walsh and I am a gifted student from Saint Charles MO. I
>> am
>> researching why Linux Mint is more popular than other operating systems.
>> I
>> am really enjoying researching this topic and I have some questions about
>> Debian for research:

< snipped >

>> 2. What about Debian separates it from other operating systems like
>> Ubuntu,
>> Mint,  or Red Hat?
>
> Non commercial. Debian is the ancestor distribution for Ubuntu and
> therefore for all other Ubuntu-derived distributions like Mint.
>
> Red Hat is a commercial distribution based on RPM package format.
>
> Debian policy and packaging guidelines make Debian more consistent


Yeah, I know what he said, but this actually is a good place for this:
Debian's very real usability separates it pretty much from all others
I've ever used, although I've actually only fully test driven a small
handful (~five to eight) of the others.

I'm abject poverty. Very literally the absolute bottom of the barrel,
the bottom 2 to 5%, yet Debian helps me keep up within a very few
short hours, sometimes even minutes, of the developers' latest
updates.... on dialup Internet access. Debian accomplishes this feat
for me via the "debootstrap" option for installing Debian.

Instead of anywhere from 500MB+ to one or two GIGABYTES of absolute
necessary initial installation download, Debian's debootrap method for
Sid Unstable this week is under 200MB. That's doable on dialup because
previous installation files, "dot deb" archive files, are easily and
*singularly* reusable.

Easily reusable, *singular* dotDeb archive files help keep any given
newest installation to sometimes a mere 50MB or so, which was Sid's
approximate actual new download number this week. I fed and walked the
dogs, refilled some bird feeders, changed out some bird baths, came
back in.... and it was already a done deal on that one recent
afternoon.

That's a hint to please always help keep that a reality for others.
It' remains nothing short of amazing to me as an impoverished end
user. *grin*


>> 3. What inspired Debian (a.k.a why did you create Debian instead of just
>> using another operating system?)
>
> It preceded most other Linux distributions. Linux kernel is 26 years
> old, Debian is 24.


The Debian Manifesto originally last revised in 1994 with some further
tweaking over the years:

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.html

A "brief" overview of Debian's project history:

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/

Good luck with your own project. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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