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cdimage?? What should we call it?

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First post2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
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  cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Simon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at> - 2015-08-18 18:30 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Majid HUSSAIN <mhussaincov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 19:00 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? "Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2015-08-18 19:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Ana Guerrero Lopez <ana@debian.org> - 2015-08-18 18:40 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? VDR User <user.vdr@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 01:00 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp> - 2015-08-18 20:40 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-19 00:30 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? humbert.olivier.1@free.fr - 2015-08-19 01:10 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 14:20 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 01:20 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 06:10 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name> - 2015-08-19 07:50 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Ogge Sjölin <ogge@tuaril.org> - 2015-08-19 08:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 09:50 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 03:50 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp> - 2015-08-21 08:00 +0200
            Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2015-08-22 19:20 +0200
              Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu.tl@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 22:00 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-25 18:20 +0200

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#8205 — cdimage?? What should we call it?

FromSteve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
Date2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
Subjectcdimage?? What should we call it?
Message-ID<pYRMd-2Xf-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hey folks,

We called our main installer images distribution site
cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:

 * lots of people are using USB sticks
 * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
 * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
   soon!)

So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)

Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"I can't ever sleep on planes ... call it irrational if you like, but I'm
 afraid I'll miss my stop" -- Vivek Das Mohapatra

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#8206

FromSteve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>
Date2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
Message-ID<pYRMe-2Xf-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8205

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey folks,

> We called our main installer images distribution site
> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:

>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>    soon!)

> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)

> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.


 - seedy-image.debian.org
 - mothership.debian.org
 - ftp.debian.org
 - image-master.debian.org
 - get.debian.org

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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#8207

FromSimon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at>
Date2015-08-18 18:30 +0200
Message-ID<pYRVV-39n-53@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8206
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Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to
decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there:

https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage

Bye,

Simon



Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Hey folks,
> 
>> We called our main installer images distribution site 
>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it
>> published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things
>> have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking
>> more silly over time:
> 
>> * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live
>> images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images
>> (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!)
> 
>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had 
>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but
>> it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for
>> pictures... :-)
> 
>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
> 
> 
> - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org -
> image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org
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#8209

FromMajid HUSSAIN <mhussaincov@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-18 19:00 +0200
Message-ID<pYSoV-3I8-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8207
hi there,
hows about
iso.debian.org?
it makes sence to me at least.
thoughts?
Majid

On 18/08/2015, Simon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at> wrote:
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>
> Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to
> decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage
>
> Bye,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>
>>> We called our main installer images distribution site
>>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it
>>> published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things
>>> have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking
>>> more silly over time:
>>
>>> * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live
>>> images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images
>>> (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!)
>>
>>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
>>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but
>>> it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for
>>> pictures... :-)
>>
>>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
>>
>>
>> - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org -
>> image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org
>>
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#8211

From"Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Date2015-08-18 19:20 +0200
Message-ID<pYSIj-4kl-39@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8209
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:34:39PM +0100, Majid HUSSAIN wrote:
> hi there,
> hows about
> iso.debian.org?
> it makes sence to me at least.
> thoughts?

But it also has usb compatible images, pxe and other netboot images,
hd images, etc.

It is not just ISOs.

-- 
Len Sorensen

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#8208

FromAna Guerrero Lopez <ana@debian.org>
Date2015-08-18 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<pYS5z-3kN-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8206
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 06:15:46PM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
>  - get.debian.org

get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE
would be great.

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#8215

FromVDR User <user.vdr@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-19 01:00 +0200
Message-ID<pYXRD-41k-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8208
> get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE
> would be great.

That would be perfect! get.debian.org/testing here I come! :)

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#8212

FromHideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>
Date2015-08-18 20:40 +0200
Message-ID<pYTXH-61Z-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8206
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200
Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>  - get.debian.org

 I prefer this since easy to understand and type :)

-- 
Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>

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#8213

FromSteve McIntyre <steve@einval.com>
Date2015-08-19 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<pYXyi-3Aj-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8212
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200
>Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>>  - get.debian.org
>
> I prefer this since easy to understand and type :)

I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-)

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"Every time you use Tcl, God kills a kitten." -- Malcolm Ray

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#8216

Fromhumbert.olivier.1@free.fr
Date2015-08-19 01:10 +0200
Message-ID<pYYaZ-4D3-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8213
>>Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>>  - get.debian.org

+1

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#8222

FromStefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org>
Date2015-08-19 14:20 +0200
Message-ID<pZavw-5CZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:20:38PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >>  - get.debian.org
> I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-)

FWIW, same here. It's a verb, short, straight to the point, and
memorable. I don't see the point of looking elsewhere :-)

-- 
Stefano Zacchiroli  . . . . . . .  zack@upsilon.cc . . . . o . . . o . o
Maître de conférences . . . . . http://upsilon.cc/zack . . . o . . . o o
Former Debian Project Leader . . . . . @zacchiro . . . . o o o . . . o .
« the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club »

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#8217

FromAntonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org>
Date2015-08-19 01:20 +0200
Message-ID<pYYkG-4Oi-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8205

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

download.debian.org ?

-- 
Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org>

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#8218

FromCyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
Date2015-08-19 06:10 +0200
Message-ID<pZ2Rj-2Xw-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi Steve and others,

Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> (2015-08-18):
> We called our main installer images distribution site
> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:
> 
>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>    soon!)
> 
> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)
> 
> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without
having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about
naming in this or that conversation.

Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
 - get.debian.org
 - download.debian.org
 - install.debian.org
 - installer.debian.org

I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
different (yet appropriate).


Mraw,
KiBi.

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#8219

FromMarco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
Date2015-08-19 07:50 +0200
Message-ID<pZ4q6-59O-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi all,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:08:08AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
>  - get.debian.org
>  - download.debian.org
>  - install.debian.org
>  - installer.debian.org
> 
> I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
> different (yet appropriate).
+1

Thanks, Marco

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#8220

FromOgge Sjölin <ogge@tuaril.org>
Date2015-08-19 08:20 +0200
Message-ID<pZ4T8-5X1-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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download.debian.org is very good.

On 19 August 2015 06:08:08 CEST, Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> wrote:
>Hi Steve and others,
>
>Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> (2015-08-18):
>> We called our main installer images distribution site
>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published
>and
>> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
>> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:
>> 
>>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>>    soon!)
>> 
>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
>> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)
>> 
>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
>
>Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without
>having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about
>naming in this or that conversation.
>
>Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
> - get.debian.org
> - download.debian.org
> - install.debian.org
> - installer.debian.org
>
>I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
>different (yet appropriate).
>
>
>Mraw,
>KiBi.

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#8221

FromPaul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Date2015-08-19 09:50 +0200
Message-ID<pZ6id-7RI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8218
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

> Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
>  - get.debian.org
>  - download.debian.org
>  - install.debian.org
>  - installer.debian.org

I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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#8229

FromLisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-21 03:50 +0200
Message-ID<pZJCV-5V4-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Wednesday 19 August 2015 09:45:36 Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
> >  - get.debian.org
> >  - download.debian.org
> >  - install.debian.org
> >  - installer.debian.org
> 
> I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service.

And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.

-- 

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/

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#8230

FromHideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>
Date2015-08-21 08:00 +0200
Message-ID<pZNwR-35E-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8229
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.

 Not only canonical but also gentoo does. 
 https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ 
 (and I like their newer website design...)

 
-- 
Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>

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#8236

FromWouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>
Date2015-08-22 19:20 +0200
Message-ID<q0kCt-5g-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8230
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
> Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.
> 
>  Not only canonical but also gentoo does. 
>  https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ 
>  (and I like their newer website design...)

I think Lisandro meant "the canonical location," as in, "the normal name
that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it," not "the
name that canonical (the company) uses".

But yeah, that would work too :-)

-- 
It is easy to love a country that is famous for chocolate and beer

  -- Barack Obama, speaking in Brussels, Belgium, 2014-03-26

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#8237

FromMathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu.tl@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-22 22:00 +0200
Message-ID<q0n7k-3xW-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#8236

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On Aug 22, 2015 7:16 PM, "Wouter Verhelst" <wouter@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
> > Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the
idea.
> >
> >  Not only canonical but also gentoo does.
> >  https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/
> >  (and I like their newer website design...)
>
> I think Lisandro meant "the canonical location," as in, "the normal name
> that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it," not "the
> name that canonical (the company) uses".
>

And I think Lisandro meant it being the A name, with cdimage staying as a
CNAME so it's still reachable, rather than the other way around :-)

/ Matt

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