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  Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails mindstring@protonmail.com - 2024-10-24 02:40 +0200
    Re: Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails Danial Behzadi <dani.behzi@ubuntu.com> - 2024-10-24 15:40 +0200
      Re: Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails mindstring@protonmail.com - 2024-10-24 17:20 +0200
    Re: Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2024-10-24 17:30 +0200

#13626 — Fw: [rt.torproject.org #335978] Feedback on Tails

Dear Debian,

Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use their resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian doesn't support phones well enough.

As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However, Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems to understand that people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie, one small but powerful device which does everything).

Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes which are based directly on Debian.

Best regards



-------- Original Message --------
On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT <frontdesk@torproject.org> wrote:

>  Hello,
>  Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for mobile phones is
>  not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some background
>  on this please see these articles on the bug tracker,
>  https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064
>  https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld
>  
>  cheers,
>  
>  --
>  
>  ebanam
>  
>  Community Team, The Tor Project
>  
>  
>  
>  On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, mindstring@protonmail.com wrote:
>  
>  > Dear Tor Project,
>  
>  > Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that happen.
>  
>  > Best regards
>  
>  
>  

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#13627

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You can already Install and use Debian on mobile phones: 
<https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian/>

در ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00 روز پنجشنبه، ۲۴ اكتبر 
۲۴ at ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00, mindstring@protonmail.com نوشته 
بود:
> Dear Debian,
> 
> Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have 
> merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out 
> that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for 
> Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use their 
> resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer 
> discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian 
> doesn't support phones well enough.
> 
> As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched 
> to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's 
> ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However, 
> Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems to understand that 
> people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie, 
> one small but powerful device which does everything).
> 
> Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes 
> which are based directly on Debian.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT <frontdesk@torproject.org 
> <mailto:frontdesk@torproject.org>> wrote:
> 
>>   Hello,
>>   Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for 
>> mobile phones is
>>   not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some 
>> background
>>   on this please see these articles on the bug tracker,
>>   <https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064>
>>   <https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld>
>> 
>>   cheers,
>> 
>>   --
>> 
>>   ebanam
>> 
>>   Community Team, The Tor Project
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, mindstring@protonmail.com 
>> <mailto:mindstring@protonmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>   > Dear Tor Project,
>> 
>>   > Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails 
>> that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that 
>> happen.
>> 
>>   > Best regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 

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#13628

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Thanks for your response. I will forward it to the Tor Project.

-------- Original Message --------
On 24/10/2024 12:19, Danial Behzadi  wrote:

> You can already Install and use Debian on mobile phones: https://wiki.debian.org/Mobian/
>
> در ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00 روز پنجشنبه، ۲۴ اكتبر ۲۴ at ۰۰:۱۹:۱۹ +00:00:00, mindstring@protonmail.com نوشته بود:
>
>> Dear Debian, Now that Tails (which is based on Debian) and the Tor Project have merged, I sent the Tor Project an email (see below), pointing out that many people, for many years, have been hoping and waiting for Tails to work on mobile phones, and asking them to use their resources to make it happen. They pointed me to old Tails developer discussions which basically said they can't do it because Debian doesn't support phones well enough. As I understand, Tails used to be based on Ubuntu, and they switched to Debian because of the higher quality of its releases (ie, "it's ready when it's ready", not "it's ready on a certain date"). However, Ubuntu is developing a mobile version, and seems to understand that people want convergence between their desktop, laptop, and phone (ie, one small but powerful device which does everything). Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes which are based directly on Debian. Best regards -------- Original Message -------- On 07/10/2024 18:16, ebanam via RT <frontdesk@torproject.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, Thanks for reaching out but, unfortunately, Tails support for mobile phones is not in the works and we don't have a plan to support it. For some background on this please see these articles on the bug tracker, https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/6064 https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/blueprints/-/wikis/handheld cheers, -- ebanam Community Team, The Tor Project On Fri Oct 04 18:11:35 2024, mindstring@protonmail.com wrote: > Dear Tor Project, > Many people have been waiting many years for a version of Tails that works on mobile phones. Please use your resources to make that happen. > Best regards

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#13629

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On 2024-10-24 00:19:19 +0000 (+0000), mindstring@protonmail.com wrote:
[...]
> Please work on making that kind of convergence possible for OSes
> which are based directly on Debian.
[...]

I personally use a Purism Librem 5 phone which runs PureOS based
directly on Debian, for example.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley

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