Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.project > #12874 > unrolled thread

Re: question with the Debian Project

Back to article view | Back to linux.debian.project

This discussion starts older than the indexed window; earlier articles aren't shown. The article labeled Started by below is the oldest one visible, not the original post.

Contents

  Re: question with the Debian Project Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2022-07-29 12:20 +0200
    Re: question with the Debian Project Steffen Moeller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2022-07-29 13:30 +0200

#12874 — Re: question with the Debian Project

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 05:13:38PM +0800, 桑猛 wrote:
> Hello debian,I am a user of debian system and belong to the company Loongson Zhongke. We have our own loongarch architecture. Now we want to adapt our loongarch architecture based on debian12 or debian13.
> 
> We would like to get the version of some packages on debian 12 and Debian 13 to help us choose which version to use as our next system version.
I don't think anyone can say what versions will trixie contain, apart from
a very small number of projects with fixed release schedules. On the other
hand, I don't think you would care about versions that are not released
yet and so you know nothing about them anyway.
As for bookworm, some people responsible may be able to give estimations
but the freeze is in 6 months so many versions are not known either. You
can check the current versions in testing using tracker.debian.org,
packages.debian.org, rmadison or apt.

-- 
WBR, wRAR

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#12875

Am 29.07.2022 um 12:09 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin:
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 05:13:38PM +0800, 桑猛 wrote:
>> Hello debian,I am a user of debian system and belong to the company Loongson Zhongke. We have our own loongarch architecture. Now we want to adapt our loongarch architecture based on debian12 or debian13.
>>
>> We would like to get the version of some packages on debian 12 and Debian 13 to help us choose which version to use as our next system version.
> I don't think anyone can say what versions will trixie contain, apart from
> a very small number of projects with fixed release schedules. On the other
> hand, I don't think you would care about versions that are not released
> yet and so you know nothing about them anyway.
> As for bookworm, some people responsible may be able to give estimations
> but the freeze is in 6 months so many versions are not known either. You
> can check the current versions in testing using tracker.debian.org,
> packages.debian.org, rmadison or apt.

Hm. These packages are mostly core packages from how I interpret them.
And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson will turn into another flavor
of MIPS as a separate architecture if I get this right. So, just
guessing, but I sense that the challenge is to prepare all those core
packages for a brand new architecture that yet nobody has access to.

Concerning the question what distribution to target - I propose sid. And
whenever the packages have seen all the updates/changes required to run
on MIPS-Loongarch then these will soon also be in testing, which with a
bit of luck is then Bookworm, still. With core packages being the first
that are to be frozen for the release, this all needs to happen within
the next 6 months. No idea about how realistic that is. Also, the
Loongarch-motivated changes should go to upstream, not into debian/patches.

I suggest to organize porter boxes and build demons, and maybe spread a
few machines to key individuals, whoever that may be. Concerning the
exact version of the core packages, because of your special hardware you
likely need a respective collaboration with the Debian developers
anyway. Just work with them to get the packages you need updated to the
version that you need.

Debian has this concept of Sprints, see https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints
. It may be fruitful to prepare for an intense extended weekend together
to get this going.

Best wishes,
Steffen <moeller>

[toc] | [prev] | [standalone]

Back to top | Article view | linux.debian.project

csiph-web