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| Started by | Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> |
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| First post | 2021-04-13 11:10 +0200 |
| Last post | 2021-04-19 16:40 +0200 |
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DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-13 11:10 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 11:30 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-13 11:50 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 15:40 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2021-04-13 18:20 +0200
Re: Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 00:40 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2021-04-14 01:00 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2021-04-14 18:50 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 21:00 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-14 19:10 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Stéphane Glondu <glondu@debian.org> - 2021-04-16 18:10 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-18 23:10 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-04-18 23:50 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-04-19 00:40 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 00:20 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 07:00 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> - 2021-04-19 09:10 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 14:50 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 19:20 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 07:00 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2021-04-19 14:50 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Sam Hartman <hartmans@suchdamage.org> - 2021-04-19 15:20 +0200
Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> - 2021-04-19 16:40 +0200
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| From | Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2021-04-19 14:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <C5BvI-5n3-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #12334 |
On 4/19/21 5:26 AM, Olek Wojnar wrote: > Most of us in Debian take privacy very > seriously, let's extend that to our votes as well. Let's not mix words. We're talking about secrecy here, not privacy. IMO, completely open votes are also nice, it's just that in the RMS vote context, it wasn't appropriate. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)
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| From | Sam Hartman <hartmans@suchdamage.org> |
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| Date | 2021-04-19 15:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <C5BYJ-5LY-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #12329 |
>>>>> "Timo" == Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> writes:
Timo> * Stéphane Glondu <glondu@debian.org> [2021-04-16 17:12]:
>> I would be glad to help :-)
Timo> Great!
>>> With all that being said and having made my case, I am open for
>>> any reasonably secure solution (including Belenios) that we can
>>> agree on, and I will help implement it if I can.
>> And I am open to make changes in Belenios if needed.
Timo> I'd like to raise two questions for debate:
Timo> 1. Do we want to retain the ability to vote openly?
I thought you were focused on the voting mechanism not so much on the
constitutional changes. I think this question belongs to that
constitutional discussion. At least on debian-vote Russ and a number of
people argued that we should move entirely to secret votes. Since we
are acting as individuals, there's not really a need for votes to hold
us accountable.
Timo> 2. How much are we committed to the current process that works
Timo> exclusively via email?
Timo> Personally, I think that a structured HTML form is more
Timo> accessible for screen readers than pure text ballots, and you
Timo> can still make the web interface render nicely in a text
Timo> browser such as Lynx or w3m.
These days I think a web form is quite accessible, so I'm not sure
accessibility is a big factor either way.
I think the web will be more accessible for new developers.
We see frustrations with the voting tools fairly regularly.
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| From | Timo Röhling <timo@gaussglocke.de> |
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| Date | 2021-04-19 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <C5Deb-6qs-17@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #12338 |
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* Sam Hartman <hartmans@suchdamage.org> [2021-04-19 07:03]: >I thought you were focused on the voting mechanism not so much on the >constitutional changes. I think this question belongs to that >constitutional discussion. It was not my intention segue into the constitutional discussion, I was merely looking to enumerate requirements for the voting system. >At least on debian-vote Russ and a number of >people argued that we should move entirely to secret votes. Since we >are acting as individuals, there's not really a need for votes to hold >us accountable. As many available e-voting platforms are not really designed for open voting, this would certainly simplify things. I take it the question is far from being settled, though. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ ╰────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
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