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Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL

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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:51:23PM -0300, Yao Wei wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:49:24AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > ##################
> > I do not consider a flat tarball to be a preferred form for modification. 
> > Thus, like any non-source form, it must be accompanied by a way to obtain
> > the actual form for modification.  There are many such ways -- unless you
> > distribute the software in highly unusual circumstances, a link to a
> > network server suffices; see the text of the GPL for further details.
> > ##################
> 
> I believe transporting whole VCS directory in a tarball is a viable
> workaround

Ie, the 3.0 (git) format.

> though I would argue that expensive data transport (like 4G,
> satellite network, etc.) is not highly unusual.

Using real git (rather than a hack to emulate the old scheme) you can do a
shallow clone.

Tunnelling git repos inside tarballs is useful only in rare (yet important)
cases like a desert island, an oppressive country, an air-gapped facility,
an interstellar spaceship, etc.  And once tunnelled, git will works
awesomely within that disconnected from us network.  Including merging back
once connected again.  That's not something a flat tarball can do.

> Also, if upstream interpret the clause as "the actual place for making
> modification", it could violate dissident test.

I'm talking about format, not place.  Git is explicitly a _distributed_ VCS,
meant to solve this very problem.

And mandating git specifically would be non-free, as it'd forbid migrating
to a future better scheme, or an alternative (Hg, Pijul).  Thus, I propose
opt-in banning only a particular obsolete way to convey processed sources.


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anti-tarball clause and GPL Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2019-07-24 00:50 +0200
  Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2019-07-24 01:30 +0200
  Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2019-07-24 02:20 +0200
    Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2019-07-24 02:40 +0200
      Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-07-24 07:20 +0200
        Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2019-07-25 18:50 +0200
          Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-25 19:00 +0200
            Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-07-25 19:20 +0200
            Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> - 2019-07-25 21:10 +0200
      Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2019-07-24 12:00 +0200
      Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-07-28 15:40 +0200
        Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-07-28 18:30 +0200
  Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Yao Wei <mwei@debian.org> - 2019-07-24 03:00 +0200
    Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2019-07-25 20:10 +0200
      Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL "Yao Wei (魏銘廷)" <mwei@debian.org> - 2019-07-26 03:50 +0200
  Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@cateee.net> - 2019-07-24 10:20 +0200
  Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2019-07-24 22:30 +0200
    Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Yao Wei <mwei@debian.org> - 2019-07-25 00:40 +0200
      Re: anti-tarball clause and GPL Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> - 2019-07-25 21:10 +0200

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