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| From | Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.project |
| Subject | Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee |
| Date | 2017-10-28 02:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uFnaF-2Ir-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
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As a member of the technical committee, I've grown increasingly alarmed as I think about the impact of the issues that come to us. Yes, we're giving answers. However, I think we are doing a lot of harm to the members of our community in the process, and I would like to explore whether we can do better. I've written a blog entry describing my concerns. It's on Planet, and you can see it at https://hartmans.livejournal.com/97174.html I've reached a point where I'd like to share my concerns and ask "anyone else feel similar? Anyone else want to work on solving this?" In thinking about my concerns I went over a list of issues that have come before the TC going back somewhat before the Systemd discussion. However, I did not perform any quantitative or statistical analysis. As you can see I also didn't share any discussion of specific issues. I'm not trying to persuade you I'm right. I am very interested in being exposed to your ideas about how one might think about this situation, and certainly exposing me to new ways of thinking is likely to change my opinions. But I'm not really interested in persuasion either incoming or outgoing at this point. I'm seeking shared interest. If we get to a point where we want to propose a specific change, we'll need to convince the project it will make things better. That's a ways down this road.
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Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-10-28 02:30 +0200
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-10-28 13:40 +0200
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-10-29 01:20 +0200
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-10-31 11:10 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-10-31 17:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-10-31 17:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Luk Claes <luk.claes@gmail.com> - 2017-10-31 18:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-10-31 18:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-11-03 23:00 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2017-11-04 00:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Marty <martyb@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-11-07 02:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-11-07 04:00 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> - 2017-12-26 15:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-12-26 16:10 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-12-28 11:30 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-12-28 13:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-12-28 13:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-12-28 14:00 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-12-28 19:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-10-31 18:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-11-02 14:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-02 14:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-11-02 19:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2017-11-04 00:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-11-04 02:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-11-04 02:50 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-11-04 06:40 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2017-11-05 17:10 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-11-04 05:20 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-11-03 14:10 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-10-29 05:30 +0100
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2017-10-29 00:00 +0200
Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-10-29 01:30 +0200
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