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Re: DNS Qname minimisation

From Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: DNS Qname minimisation
Date 2016-03-28 22:00 +0200
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* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh:

> On the CDN side, Akamai were warned that their authoritative servers
> were broken and would interfere with Qname minimization in February
> 2015[1], and it is still not fixed.  It is the same bad behavior that
> happened to ECN

It is similar to ECN indeed.  In both cases, people changed the
specification, and complained loudly when their changes are
incompatible with the installation base.

In fact, the problem with NODATA responses is that it is rather
difficult for stub resolvers to tell a NODATA response from a working
recursive resolver from a “I don't provide recursive service” response
from a non-working recursive resolver.  NXDOMAIN would be unambiguous
in these situations.  It's likely one reason why most implementations
moved towards NXDOMAIN in the late 90s.

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DNS Qname minimisation Hugo Maxwell Connery <hmco@env.dtu.dk> - 2016-03-23 16:50 +0100
  Re: DNS Qname minimisation Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2016-03-23 17:30 +0100
  Re: DNS Qname minimisation Robert Edmonds <edmonds@debian.org> - 2016-03-24 00:40 +0100
    Re: DNS Qname minimisation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-03-24 02:30 +0100
      Re: DNS Qname minimisation Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2016-03-24 10:50 +0100
        Re: DNS Qname minimisation Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-03-24 17:50 +0100
      Re: DNS Qname minimisation Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2016-03-28 20:20 +0200
        Re: DNS Qname minimisation Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2016-03-28 22:00 +0200
          Re: DNS Qname minimisation Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2016-03-31 22:00 +0200

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