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Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene

From Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene
Date 2026-08-16 11:00 +0200
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Quoting Simon Josefsson (2026-08-16 10:31:59)
> Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> writes:
> 
> > Quoting Sebastiaan Couwenberg (2026-08-15 11:07:03)
> >> On 8/15/26 10:25 AM, Tobias Frost wrote:
> >> > But this is not just an MIA team task. The Uploaders field is part of
> >> > the package's maintenance metadata, and keeping it reasonably accurate
> >> > should be part of maintaining the package. If you notice that someone
> >> > listed there no longer appears to be actively maintaining the package,
> >> > please consider cleaning it up.
> >> 
> >> This will result in no-human-maintainers lintian issues, because
> >> many packages are on life support with team uploads where no person
> >> wants to commit to the package by adding themselves to Uploaders.
> >> 
> >> I guess we should just acknowledge that fact in the override comment.
> >
> > If noone in a team wants to commit to a package by adding themselves as
> > in the Uploaders field, it seems that package is team-*un*maintained
> > and that fact should be acknowledged by moving the package to QA team.
> 
> I disagree -- and think this is at the core of what proper "team"
> maintainance of packages could be.
> 
> To me, team maintainance would be one where the team as a collective
> take responsibility for a package, but no individual person insists on
> the ego-boost of assigning personal ownership of the outcome, and
> through social means of the Uploader field signal that others should not
> feel the same level of ownership.

Do you mean "could be" and "would be" as future tense?

I am not simply nitpicking here - I genuinely find it quite confusing
to mix in speculations about future Debian into a conversation about
current rules in Debian.

 - Jonas

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Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2026-08-15 10:40 +0200
  Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-08-15 12:30 +0200
    Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-08-15 13:30 +0200
    Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-08-16 11:00 +0200
      Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-08-16 13:40 +0200
        Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-08-16 14:40 +0200
          Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-08-16 16:10 +0200
    Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-08-16 11:00 +0200
      Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Richard Lewis <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2026-08-16 13:40 +0200
        Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2026-08-16 14:10 +0200
          Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2026-08-16 14:40 +0200
            Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2026-08-16 15:30 +0200
            Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2026-08-16 15:30 +0200
              Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2026-08-16 15:30 +0200
                Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2026-08-16 16:50 +0200
            Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-08-16 15:30 +0200
  Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2026-08-15 14:50 +0200
  Package metadata (was: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene) Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2026-08-15 17:40 +0200
    Re: Package metadata (was: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene) Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2026-08-23 11:10 +0200
      Re: Package metadata Martin <debacle@debian.org> - 2026-08-23 12:00 +0200
  Re: Beyond QA: Uploaders field hygiene Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2026-08-15 21:10 +0200
  Using helper tools to mainain the Uploaders field Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2026-08-16 23:50 +0200

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