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Re: NEW review & revision process (or lack thereof) (Re: Growing new FTP-masters (Re: Bits from DPL))

From Philip Hands <phil@hands.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.project
Subject Re: NEW review & revision process (or lack thereof) (Re: Growing new FTP-masters (Re: Bits from DPL))
Date 2025-03-10 11:50 +0100
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Luke Faraone <lfaraone@debian.org> writes:

> The rationale given when I joined as ftpassistant (c. 2012) for not 
> publicising decisions e.g. in the ITP was to avoid publishing 
> potentially harshly-worded and embarassing reviews to maintainers in 
> public (like pointing out that you missed a fairly obvious license 
> declaration, incompatibility, or packaging step).
>
> I am welcome to feedback from the project as to whether this outweighs 
> the benefit to having past decisions available for public consultation.

If the price for the ability to learn from the mistakes of others is an
occasional dose of public humiliation, then that's a price I'm happy to
pay (and I speak as someone that has a talent for making trivial errors).

Also, we claim in the Debian Social Contract that we don't hide problems.

How about if the (possibly harsh) reasoning were published in a form
that only directly tied it to the package name, such that search engines
would not instantly and permanently place that comment on one's CV?

I'd imagine that the stigma of a rejection would pretty quickly become
an understanding that everyone makes mistakes occasionally, which may be
a good way of avoiding new contributors becoming intimidated by the
assumption that everyone else is doing a perfect job.

Cheers, Phil.
-- 
Philip Hands -- https://hands.com/~phil

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Re: NEW review & revision process (or lack thereof) (Re: Growing  new FTP-masters (Re: Bits from DPL)) Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2025-03-10 11:50 +0100

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