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Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience)

From Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience)
Date 2025-06-02 16:20 +0200
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Hi,

On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 10:34:23PM +0200, Daniel Gröber wrote:
> Hai Joachim,
> 
> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 05:03:40PM +0200, Joachim Zobel wrote:
> > I just wanted to add that there is also an emotional aspect to this. I
> > offered help and was ignored. So as a result I feel rejected with a
> > general "if they don't want me they can get on without me" shrug.
> 
> I feel you. Had the same experience coming into Debian and I've abandoned
> contributing to other projects on account of similar experiences in the
> past.
> 
> So you're certainly not alone in feeling like this.
> 
> > Also I am aware that this is _nonsense_ - no response probably means
> > there simply was nobody - the feeling of being rejected is still there.
> 
> I'm glad you decided to reach out and share your experience instead of
> going for a silent exit as I'm sure many others do in this situation <3.

+1 That's very much appreciated. Also thanks for, despite the bad
feelings, sharing your frustration in a balanced and direct way.

> 
> I've been thinking about this overall problem for a while now. Since
> several technical solutions I've considered seem organizationally
> un-viable, for the time being anayway, I've been pondering starting a
> "Welcome Team".

See https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Welcome/. It seems there is already a
"Welcome Team" (I've just joined the channel). It would be helpful if
someone from the team could share their typical approach when dealing
with (and to avoid) such situations.

> [...]

> 
> PS: Attempting to move replies to d-project@ let's see if my email-foo is
> strong today.

I'm moving this to d-project@ only.

Bests,

--
Tiago Bortoletto Vaz

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Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2025-06-01 22:40 +0200
  Re: Pondering a Welcome Team Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2025-06-02 08:00 +0200
  Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Joachim Zobel <jz-2017@heute-morgen.de> - 2025-06-02 11:30 +0200
  Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> - 2025-06-02 16:20 +0200
    Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2025-06-02 19:10 +0200
      Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2025-06-02 22:40 +0200
  Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2025-06-03 18:30 +0200
    Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Daniel Gröber <dxld@darkboxed.org> - 2025-06-04 17:30 +0200
      Re: Pondering a Welcome Team (Was: New contributor experience) Joachim Zobel <jzobel@heute-morgen.de> - 2025-06-04 17:50 +0200

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