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>>>>> "Roberto" == Roberto A Foglietta <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> writes:

    Roberto> On Mon, 27 Feb 2023 at 19:08, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
    >> 
    >> No.  It's entirely possible that using databases as training sets
    >> for an AI/ML engine is fair use under existing United States law
    >> and precedent as long as that use is sufficiently transformative
    >> (the first factor of the test, and I suspect the most important
    >> one here).

    Roberto> Considering what you reported in the previous e-mail about
    Roberto> US national law in 17 U.S.C. § 107 in 1976, It is not
    Roberto> possible to use an entire or a significant portion of a
    Roberto> database for {business, commercial, marketing} purposes
    Roberto> without the copyright holder.

Please stop!
It's clear that you are not building support for your argument.
You've made your case to the best of your ability and not been
convincing.

But beyond that, this discussion is no longer on topic for
debian-project.
Debian cannot decide what the law is.
We've established that this situation is complicated.
You've proposed various things that someone could do to limit the use of
free software in AI training sets.
Other people have pointed out that may or may not work.
You think it will.
You haven't managed to convince your critics..
We won't know until this gets hashed out in courts.

That's about the level of detail appropriate for debian-project.
Further discussion of this issue at this time on this list does not
serve the community.

--Sam

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Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2023-02-24 10:30 +0100
  Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-24 14:30 +0100
  Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-24 19:10 +0100
    Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-02-24 20:00 +0100
      Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-24 20:50 +0100
        Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-26 17:10 +0100
          Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-26 21:50 +0100
            Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-27 02:50 +0100
              Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2023-02-27 05:10 +0100
              Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-27 07:20 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-27 08:50 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-27 09:00 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-27 18:50 +0100
              Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-02-28 06:40 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-28 09:10 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-28 09:10 +0100
            Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-27 02:50 +0100
              Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-27 09:00 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-27 09:40 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-02-27 19:10 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-28 00:40 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Sam Hartman <hartmans@suchdamage.org> - 2023-02-28 15:50 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-28 19:40 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-02-28 20:00 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> - 2023-03-02 06:00 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-03-02 11:40 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@sfconservancy.org> - 2023-03-03 05:30 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> - 2023-03-04 05:50 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-03-04 09:10 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> - 2023-03-15 05:20 +0100
                Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence "Roberto A. Foglietta" <roberto.foglietta@gmail.com> - 2023-03-22 05:20 +0100
        Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2023-02-27 05:10 +0100
          Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2023-03-23 15:30 +0100
            Re: Brief update about software freedom and artificial intelligence Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-03-23 17:20 +0100

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