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Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

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On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 08:51:30AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> It sounds like you are hearing me as disagreeing with *you* and not with
> some combination of your ideas and how they are presented.
> I'd like to offer to sit down virtually and work through this.
> I don't want to come across as hostile, and I hope that we would both
> choose to avoid frustration or worse building between us.
> 
> However my experience is that mailing lists are not the best media for
> working through things when perceptions of hostility get involved.
> If you'd be open I propose that we get together on IRC or phone (with a
> third party if that would make you feel more comfortable) and see if we
> can work to a place where you feel valued, even if we don't get to a
> place where we are in agreement on everything.
> After I'd be happy to come back to the list, express any regrets and
> summarize what I've learned about how to approach this situation without
> creating negative feelings.
> 
> If you are open to this, let's coordinate a time off-list.

Sam, you accused Olek of derailing the situation, which (AFAICS) he disagrees
with, and now you are "offering" to solve this problem by Olek investing 
more time to solve a problem that doesnt also in my book doesnt exist.

btw, I could also say you Sam are derailing Enricos thread as well, voila.

Olek replied how/when keysigning is important to them, with a concrete use-case
(sponsoring uploads), which IMO is a very fine use case of key signing
and I am puzzled about your response of cornering into counceling his behaviour.


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	Holger

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Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Gerardo Ballabio <gerardo.ballabio@gmail.com> - 2020-08-07 10:40 +0200
  Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-08-07 11:10 +0200
    Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-07 21:40 +0200
      Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-08-07 22:50 +0200
        Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-08 00:00 +0200
          Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2020-08-08 04:00 +0200
      Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Cindy Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2020-08-07 23:30 +0200
      Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2020-08-08 04:00 +0200
        Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-08 18:30 +0200
          Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2020-08-08 22:50 +0200
            Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-09 01:10 +0200
              Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Olek Wojnar <olek@debian.org> - 2020-08-09 03:40 +0200
                Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2020-08-09 07:40 +0200
                Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-09 15:10 +0200
                Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-08-10 12:00 +0200
                How to Value a Community Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-08-10 14:20 +0200
              Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19 Eldon Koyle <ekoyle@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 06:20 +0200

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