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  py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2020-03-31 05:10 +0200
    Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2020-03-31 11:30 +0200
      Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2020-03-31 12:00 +0200
        Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2020-03-31 16:00 +0200
          Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-03-31 16:20 +0200
            Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Gordon Ball <gordon@chronitis.net> - 2020-03-31 17:10 +0200
    Re: py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2020-04-02 04:10 +0200

#12410 — py2removal: proposal to increase apps popcon limit

Hello,
as part of the py2removal process, we're not raising the bug priority
to serious if it's associated with an application and popcon is bigger
than 300

There are currently:

* 38 apps that are leaf packages and popcon > 300;
** 13 out of 38 have popcon < 600
** 20 out of 38 have popcon < 1000

I propose to raise the popcon threshold to 1000.

What are your thoughts? I will move forward with this change in 3 days
if i dont hear any opposition.

Cheers,
-- 
Sandro "morph" Tosi
My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi

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#12411

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:01:49PM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> Hello,
> as part of the py2removal process, we're not raising the bug priority
> to serious if it's associated with an application and popcon is bigger
> than 300
>
> There are currently:
>
> * 38 apps that are leaf packages and popcon > 300;
> ** 13 out of 38 have popcon < 600
> ** 20 out of 38 have popcon < 1000
>
> I propose to raise the popcon threshold to 1000.
>
> What are your thoughts? I will move forward with this change in 3 days
> if i dont hear any opposition.

I think it makes sense.

Maybe you can paste the list of 20 affected apps, though?

--
Dmitry Shachnev

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#12412

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On Tue, 31 Mar 2020, 11:26 am Dmitry Shachnev, <mitya57@debian.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:01:49PM -0400, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > * 38 apps that are leaf packages and popcon > 300;
> > ** 13 out of 38 have popcon < 600
> > ** 20 out of 38 have popcon < 1000
> >
> > I propose to raise the popcon threshold to 1000.
> >
> > What are your thoughts? I will move forward with this change in 3 days
> > if i dont hear any opposition.
>
> I think it makes sense.
>

Likewise.

Maybe you can paste the list of 20 affected apps, though?
>

I'm more interested in the 18 that are above 1000.  Could you please just
list them all 38, sorted by popocon?

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#12413

>> Maybe you can paste the list of 20 affected apps, though?
> I'm more interested in the 18 that are above 1000.  Could you please just list them all 38, sorted by popocon?

here's the list:

cvs2svn - popcon = 303,
chirp - popcon = 350,
gnat-gps - popcon = 354,
cfv - popcon = 387,
fretsonfire-game - popcon = 394,
neopi - popcon = 398,
kcachegrind-converters - popcon = 414,
virt-goodies - popcon = 430,
freeorion - popcon = 433,
syncthing-gtk - popcon = 435,
postnews - popcon = 557,
pssh - popcon = 562,
displaycal - popcon = 562,
archivemail - popcon = 674,
syslog-summary - popcon = 692,
xboxdrv - popcon = 696,
trash-cli - popcon = 753,
fsl-5.0-core - popcon = 822,
denyhosts - popcon = 852,
geda-utils - popcon = 938,
mirage - popcon = 1006,
gnumeric-plugins-extra - popcon = 1110,
getmail - popcon = 1191,
mailman - popcon = 1344,
smart-notifier - popcon = 1362,
xchat - popcon = 1606,
mysql-workbench - popcon = 1688,
calligra-libs - popcon = 2296,
mysql-utilities - popcon = 2448,
lokalize - popcon = 2598,
libboost-mpi-python1.67.0 - popcon = 2691,
bleachbit - popcon = 2773,
qbittorrent - popcon = 3402,
libapache2-mod-python - popcon = 3778,
nagios-plugins-contrib - popcon = 4059,
playonlinux - popcon = 4781,
sugar-browse-activity - popcon = 6421,
ipython - popcon = 8296,

-- 
Sandro "morph" Tosi
My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi

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#12414

On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 9:54:41 AM EDT Sandro Tosi wrote:
> >> Maybe you can paste the list of 20 affected apps, though?
> > 
> > I'm more interested in the 18 that are above 1000.  Could you please just
> > list them all 38, sorted by popocon?
> here's the list:
> 
> cvs2svn - popcon = 303,
> chirp - popcon = 350,
> gnat-gps - popcon = 354,
> cfv - popcon = 387,
> fretsonfire-game - popcon = 394,
> neopi - popcon = 398,
> kcachegrind-converters - popcon = 414,
> virt-goodies - popcon = 430,
> freeorion - popcon = 433,
> syncthing-gtk - popcon = 435,
> postnews - popcon = 557,
> pssh - popcon = 562,
> displaycal - popcon = 562,
> archivemail - popcon = 674,
> syslog-summary - popcon = 692,
> xboxdrv - popcon = 696,
> trash-cli - popcon = 753,
> fsl-5.0-core - popcon = 822,
> denyhosts - popcon = 852,
> geda-utils - popcon = 938,
> mirage - popcon = 1006,
> gnumeric-plugins-extra - popcon = 1110,
> getmail - popcon = 1191,
> mailman - popcon = 1344,
> smart-notifier - popcon = 1362,
> xchat - popcon = 1606,
> mysql-workbench - popcon = 1688,
> calligra-libs - popcon = 2296,
> mysql-utilities - popcon = 2448,
> lokalize - popcon = 2598,
> libboost-mpi-python1.67.0 - popcon = 2691,
> bleachbit - popcon = 2773,
> qbittorrent - popcon = 3402,
> libapache2-mod-python - popcon = 3778,
> nagios-plugins-contrib - popcon = 4059,
> playonlinux - popcon = 4781,
> sugar-browse-activity - popcon = 6421,
> ipython - popcon = 8296,

Thanks.  I believe ipython will be gone shortly.

I do not see any problems with bumping to 1,000 now.

For the ones > 1,000, I think we should do some assessment of what needs to 
happen on a case by case basis.  Some of those, I suspect, only use python2 
for very limited purposes that could either be dropped or updated to python3.

Scott K

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#12415

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:04:34AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 9:54:41 AM EDT Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > >> Maybe you can paste the list of 20 affected apps, though?
> > > 
> > > I'm more interested in the 18 that are above 1000.  Could you please just
> > > list them all 38, sorted by popocon?
> > here's the list:
> > 
> > cvs2svn - popcon = 303,
> > chirp - popcon = 350,
> > gnat-gps - popcon = 354,
> > cfv - popcon = 387,
> > fretsonfire-game - popcon = 394,
> > neopi - popcon = 398,
> > kcachegrind-converters - popcon = 414,
> > virt-goodies - popcon = 430,
> > freeorion - popcon = 433,
> > syncthing-gtk - popcon = 435,
> > postnews - popcon = 557,
> > pssh - popcon = 562,
> > displaycal - popcon = 562,
> > archivemail - popcon = 674,
> > syslog-summary - popcon = 692,
> > xboxdrv - popcon = 696,
> > trash-cli - popcon = 753,
> > fsl-5.0-core - popcon = 822,
> > denyhosts - popcon = 852,
> > geda-utils - popcon = 938,
> > mirage - popcon = 1006,
> > gnumeric-plugins-extra - popcon = 1110,
> > getmail - popcon = 1191,
> > mailman - popcon = 1344,
> > smart-notifier - popcon = 1362,
> > xchat - popcon = 1606,
> > mysql-workbench - popcon = 1688,
> > calligra-libs - popcon = 2296,
> > mysql-utilities - popcon = 2448,
> > lokalize - popcon = 2598,
> > libboost-mpi-python1.67.0 - popcon = 2691,
> > bleachbit - popcon = 2773,
> > qbittorrent - popcon = 3402,
> > libapache2-mod-python - popcon = 3778,
> > nagios-plugins-contrib - popcon = 4059,
> > playonlinux - popcon = 4781,
> > sugar-browse-activity - popcon = 6421,
> > ipython - popcon = 8296,
> 
> Thanks.  I believe ipython will be gone shortly.

The RM bug was filed this morning. #955404
> 
> I do not see any problems with bumping to 1,000 now.
> 
> For the ones > 1,000, I think we should do some assessment of what needs to 
> happen on a case by case basis.  Some of those, I suspect, only use python2 
> for very limited purposes that could either be dropped or updated to python3.
> 
> Scott K
> 
> 
> 

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#12416

> I propose to raise the popcon threshold to 1000.

this is now enabled (and will start working from the next run, in ~30 mins)

-- 
Sandro "morph" Tosi
My website: http://sandrotosi.me/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi

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