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Bug#936604: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion

Started byOsamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>
First post2019-11-17 06:40 +0100
Last post2019-11-19 15:00 +0100
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  Bug#936604: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> - 2019-11-17 06:40 +0100
    Bug#936604: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> - 2019-11-19 14:50 +0100
      Re: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion Michael Kesper <mkesper@schokokeks.org> - 2019-11-19 15:00 +0100

#12017 — Bug#936604: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion

FromOsamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>
Date2019-11-17 06:40 +0100
SubjectBug#936604: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion
Message-ID<z3lih-3nK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Hi,

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > Currently, getmail is a candidate for removal from the upcoming Debian
> > release if it is not updated to support python 3 by someone (not
> > necessary by upstream).
>
> Thanks for the update, Osamu.  I have actually been playing with a prototype
> refactoring of getmail to not just support but require a recent Python 3.x
> version.  Such a project would give me the opportunity to remove a lot of
> historical cruft and backwards-compatibility code that getmail has accumulated
> over 20+ years.

That's great.  (I thought you rejected idea to move to 3.0.)

I tried to do it around getmail 5.5 days.  (I didn't finish it)

> Unfortunately, it's difficult to find the hours to devote to this task.  I
> don't know when, or even if, I could have a beta release ready.
>
> > If you convert python 2 code for 2.7 style, then we can support both
> > python 2 and 3.
>
> I'm not very interested in doing this, as it means not using a lot of 3.x
> features, or not using them in the most Pythonic way.  My thought was that
> this project would target at least Python 3.7; anyone who didn't want to run
> 3.7 could still run "legacy" getmail under Python 2.7.

I understand.  When I tried to convert this to Python3, the first thing
I did was clean out all backward compatibility codes, too.  It is too
much work to keep them.

Also if it is Python3 only, we don't need to add things like:

from __future__ import division
 from future import standard_library

If you have a public git repository, maybe some Debian developer may
help you.  If you want, I can set up one at salsa.debian.org (or
github.com) where ever you are comfortable.

At least, if we have a place to share work in progress, we don't
duplicate efforts.


Osamu

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#12029

FromOsamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>
Date2019-11-19 14:50 +0100
Message-ID<z4c3f-2m1-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#12017
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:28:44PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:11:43AM -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:
> > Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Currently, getmail is a candidate for removal from the upcoming Debian
> > > release if it is not updated to support python 3 by someone (not
> > > necessary by upstream).
> >
> > Thanks for the update, Osamu.  I have actually been playing with a prototype
> > refactoring of getmail to not just support but require a recent Python 3.x
> > version.  Such a project would give me the opportunity to remove a lot of
> > historical cruft and backwards-compatibility code that getmail has accumulated
> > over 20+ years.
>
> That's great.  (I thought you rejected idea to move to 3.0.)
>
> I tried to do it around getmail 5.5 days.  (I didn't finish it)


FYI: I found this repo
https://gitlab.com/dkg/getmail/commits/python3
I think this is better work than my local work.

Osamu

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#12030 — Re: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion

FromMichael Kesper <mkesper@schokokeks.org>
Date2019-11-19 15:00 +0100
SubjectRe: FYI: Python 3 migration of distributuion
Message-ID<z4ccV-2pi-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#12029

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Hi Osamu,

On 19.11.19 14:43, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> FYI: I found this repo
> https://gitlab.com/dkg/getmail/commits/python3
> I think this is better work than my local work.

I like he's done a commit for each step instead of one big
"Turn into Python3" commit.

Best
Michael


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