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Bug#934398: RM: beanstalkc -- ROM; no Python 3 subpackage and no reverse deps

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From Apollon Oikonomopoulos <apoikos@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Bug#934398: RM: beanstalkc -- ROM; no Python 3 subpackage and no reverse deps
Date Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:10:01 +0200
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[Cc-ing debian-python]

Hi Andrey,

On 21:53 Sat 10 Aug     , Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> Package: ftp.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> 
> The code seems to support Python 3 but there is no subpackage.
> 
> Reverse deps checked by dak rm -Rnb python-beanstalkc

beanstalkc is used by beanstalkd's DEP-8 tests, which as a consequence 
have just been broken. The fact that dak doesn't care about autopkgtests 
makes `dak rm -Rnb` especially tricky and we shouldn't rely on just that 
to get an idea whether a package can be safely removed or not. It would 
be nice if dak had a notion of "Test-Depends" of course, but I don't 
think this information exists in the archive's metadata currently.

While I understand the urge to get Python 2 out of bullseye as early as 
possible, I don't feel happy about how this particular case was handled, 
and I notice that it is not in agreement with what was posted on 
debian-python[1].

In all honesty and leaving [1] aside, I would very much have preferred 
if you had done one of the following instead:

 - Open an RC bug on the package to add Python-3 support in the first 
   place, which would have given me more time to react and at least 
   spare me writing this e-mail and filing for an ITP in the middle of 
   August

 - X-Debbugs-Cc beanstalkc@packages.debian.org at bug report time,
   as finding out at the time of *removal* is arguably too late.

Please keep these in mind before filing for future removals.

Regards,
Apollon

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/07/msg00080.html

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Bug#934398: RM: beanstalkc -- ROM; no Python 3 subpackage and no reverse deps Apollon Oikonomopoulos <apoikos@debian.org> - 2019-08-11 09:10 +0200
  Bug#934398: RM: beanstalkc -- ROM; no Python 3 subpackage and no reverse deps Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2019-08-12 08:00 +0200
    Bug#934398: RM: beanstalkc -- ROM; no Python 3 subpackage and no reverse deps Apollon Oikonomopoulos <apoikos@debian.org> - 2019-08-16 11:10 +0200

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