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| From | Gregor Riepl <onitake@gmail.com> |
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| Subject | Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream |
| Date | Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:20:01 +0200 |
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> As of now, calibre is not of sufficient quality to be part of a Debian release > and until it drops all Python2 requirements, it must be considered RC buggy. Is your quality argument based on the Calibre author's shenanigans? https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/9wodtq/calibre_wont_migrate_to_python_3_author_says_i_am/ And in particular: https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/1714107 One thing to consider here is the relatively large user base of Calibre that doesn't know much or care about the Python 2 deprecation. They will simply perceive dropping Calibre as a bad move on Debian's side and rush towards other packages of significantly lower quality. PPAs, Snap and the like do more harm than keeping compatibility in some way for the time being. While I agree that Debian should not put up with stubborn developers, I also don't agree that end users should take the fall for Debian maintainer's decisions. Perhaps a middle ground has to be found until a viable Py3 fork of Calibre is available, or someone steps up and writes Py3 compatibility patches without dropping Py2 support? This here seems like a good starting to achieve what Calibre's author wants: https://github.com/plone/Products.CMFPlone/issues/2184#issuecomment-359445243 Though, in the long run, somebody will have to convince Kovid that writing Py3 code is worthwhile... Or take over maintenance.
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Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2019-10-14 05:50 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> - 2019-10-14 09:20 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Gregor Riepl <onitake@gmail.com> - 2019-10-14 20:20 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> - 2019-10-14 21:30 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Gregor Riepl <onitake@gmail.com> - 2019-10-14 20:30 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> - 2019-10-14 21:30 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Craig Small <csmall@dropbear.xyz> - 2019-10-14 23:30 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2019-10-15 05:00 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Craig Small <csmall@dropbear.xyz> - 2019-10-15 05:20 +0200
Re: Raising severity to serious for some Python 2 leaf packages with no Python 3 support upstream Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2019-10-15 19:10 +0200
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