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Re: Python 3 transition question

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On 9/1/19 10:07 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
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> 
> On September 2, 2019 4:00:53 AM UTC, Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> wrote:
>>> I would just stop building these.  And if the reverse dependencies
>> have a
>>> py2removal bug itself, then comment in these issues that the
>>> suggested/recommended package gets removed.  If they don't have a
>> py2removal
>>> bug, please file the bugs for these packages.
>>
>> i dont believe this is a sensible approach; for example i maintain
>> python-mpmath, that would be rendered uninstallable the moment
>> python-gmp2 is removed. Now, python-mpmath has 3 external
>> reverse-dependencies (just to name a couple, sagemath and simpy) that
>> would be then uninstallable, and so on and so forth for all their
>> rdeps.
>>
>> Martin, i think for now the only option is to keep the py2 packages
>> around until we're ready to drop them (ie they have 0 rdeps).
> 
> I just checked on packages.d.o and according to it, python-gmp2 is a Suggests.  Suggests aren't installed with packages.  Unless I'm missing something, python-mpmath wouldn't become uninstallable.
> 
> IIRC, policy doesn't even require Suggests packages to exist.
> 
> I agree about keeping packages as long as they have reverse Recommends, but I think Suggests is going too far (although AIUI, missing Recommends don't make the package uninstallable either).
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> Scott K
> 

If I'm summarizing correctly, it sounds like there is no policy on 
exactly what to do here. I think removing the package would be pretty 
bad, because gmpy is designed to speed up numerical libraries, and the 
performance hit without it would make many libraries really painful to 
use. Given this, perhaps the dependencies should be Recommends instead 
of Suggests.

The guidelines I saw in the bugs filed on my packages (e.g. bug #937791) 
say to "document" the reverse dependency. Where do I document this?

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Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-01 21:50 +0200
  Re: Python 3 transition question Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 02:00 +0200
    Re: Python 3 transition question Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 06:10 +0200
      Re: Python 3 transition question Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-09-02 07:10 +0200
        Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-02 22:20 +0200
          Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-05 01:00 +0200

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