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Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change)

From	Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.maint.python
Subject	Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change)
Date	2018-08-08 17:00 +0200
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On 08/08/2018 03:55 PM, Ruben Undheim wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> The problem with git-debrebase will be the same as with git-dpm. As soon
>> as you try to upgrade / merge a new upstream release, you dive into a
>> rebase/conflict nightmare.
> 
> So in other words, you prefer to solve the same conflicts manually with
> quilt/quilt refresh

Yes. Whenever a patch cannot be applied, generally, applying it manually
to do the rebase is much easier than with just git. ie: just use patch,
then manage whatever's left in the .rej files, then dpkg-source --commit
the result. In my experience, it is much easier to see what's going on
rather than solving a merge conflict with git.

> There is no nightmare unless there are patch conflicts.

Of course. But it is these cases which we care about here.

> All the tools will
> in that case give you a nightmare in one way or the other. It is just that some
> of them attempt to handle it a bit more elegantly than the others.

I don't think we care if it is elegant. We care efficiency,
manageability, and above all: to always understand what's going on.

> For people familar with git (and rebase) - the nightmare should not be bad
> at all with git-debrebase.

I have experienced all sorts of weird situation where it was really hard
to figure out what was coming from before the rebase, and after it, just
by reading the source code. It's often a lot easier to just read the
patch, and try to manually modify the code to do what the patch suggests
... or not! That's the important bit. Be able to see what's going on and
take a wise decision.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

Thread

Report from the Python BoF @ DebConf18 Nicolas Dandrimont <olasd@debian.org> - 2018-08-02 17:30 +0200
  git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-03 05:30 +0200
    Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 06:00 +0200
      Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-08-03 06:40 +0200
        Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 08:30 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 09:10 +0200
            Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 10:20 +0200
              Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 10:30 +0200
    Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 15:40 +0200
    Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Ruben Undheim <lists@beebeetle.com> - 2018-08-04 09:40 +0200
      Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2018-08-08 09:20 +0200
        Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2018-08-08 13:40 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2018-08-08 16:50 +0200
            Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2018-08-08 21:30 +0200
              Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 10:20 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-09 11:00 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 12:20 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 13:00 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2018-08-08 23:50 +0200
        Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Ruben Undheim <lists@beebeetle.com> - 2018-08-08 16:00 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2018-08-08 17:00 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 00:00 +0200
    Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-08 16:30 +0200
      Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-08-10 22:30 +0200
        Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-08-11 16:20 +0200
          Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] eamanu15 <emmanuelarias30@gmail.com> - 2018-08-12 15:30 +0200
            Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2018-08-12 20:30 +0200
              Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] eamanu15 <emmanuelarias30@gmail.com> - 2018-08-15 03:10 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2018-08-15 03:20 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Lars Kruse <lists@sumpfralle.de> - 2018-08-15 04:20 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-15 09:10 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Pierre-Elliott Bécue <becue@crans.org> - 2018-08-15 13:00 +0200
                Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-15 13:20 +0200
        Re: git-dpm -> gbp conversion (mass-change) [phase 1 DONE] Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2018-08-11 16:20 +0200
  Re: Report from the Python BoF @ DebConf18 Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2018-09-19 15:40 +0200
    Re: Report from the Python BoF @ DebConf18 Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2018-09-19 17:40 +0200
    Upstreams dropping Python 2 support (Was: Re: Report from the Python  BoF @ DebConf18) Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2018-09-27 12:00 +0200
      Re: Upstreams dropping Python 2 support Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-09-27 12:20 +0200
        Re: Upstreams dropping Python 2 support Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2018-09-27 13:30 +0200
        Re: Upstreams dropping Python 2 support Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-09-27 15:20 +0200

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