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Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT

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On Aug 10, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Nikolaus Rath wrote:

>I think the only way to make this less painful is to get rid of the idea
>of managing patches in a VCS and use something like gitpkg. This has the
>drawback source package is now *generated* from the Git repository
>(i.e., you can't do git clone + debuild), but it makes maintaining the
>Git repository much less painful. Judging from all the attempts I've
>seen so far, trying to put patches (i.e., the output of a VCS) under
>version-control is just a doomed endeavor.
>
>I don't believe that switching from git-dpm to git-buildpackage is going
>to make things easier, it'll just be trading one set of problems for
>another.

Two thoughts:

* We probably need to do some actual experimentation on actual packages, so
  we should plan for allowing that on a limited basis, with the caveat that
  once a new workflow is chosen, we'll make all team packages consistent
  again.

* With git-dpm we *had* to enforce the tool choice because git-dpm's artifacts
  had to be preserved.  If we ditch git-dpm, is that still the case?  IOW, if
  you choose to use gbp-pq, am I forced to do so when I modify the same repo?
  Or if you choose to use PoQ (plain 'ol quilt), will that affect how others
  can co-maintain the package in git?

We only need to mandate workflows and conventions where the effects and
artifacts are visible after a package is updated.  Think of it like the choice
of editor - no one cares whether you use vim, emacs, gedit, or whatever to
modify the files, because its effects are only local to you (for the most
part).

Cheers,
-Barry

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pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2016-08-09 21:30 +0200
  Re: pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt Daniel Stender <stender@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 00:00 +0200
    Re: pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 00:10 +0200
    PAPT Git (was: pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 01:00 +0200
      Re: PAPT Git (was: pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt) Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 09:30 +0200
        Re: PAPT Git Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 09:40 +0200
        Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT (was:  PAPT Git) Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 10:20 +0200
          Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT (was:  PAPT Git) "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 11:00 +0200
          Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT (was: PAPT Git) Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 12:50 +0200
            Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT (was:  PAPT Git) Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 16:20 +0200
          Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2016-08-10 21:00 +0200
            Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 22:50 +0200
              Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2016-08-11 01:20 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-11 15:30 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2016-08-11 18:10 +0200
              Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2016-08-15 23:50 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-16 00:00 +0200
            Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2016-08-10 23:00 +0200
              Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2016-08-12 12:40 +0200
            Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Sergio Durigan Junior <sergiodj@sergiodj.net> - 2016-08-13 00:00 +0200
              Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-08-13 00:40 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Sergio Durigan Junior <sergiodj@sergiodj.net> - 2016-08-16 22:40 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2016-08-31 23:50 +0200
                Re: using git-dpm or plain git-buildpackage in PAPT and DPMT Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-09-02 21:20 +0200
  Re: pypi2deb 1.20160809 and --profile dpmt IOhannes m zmölnig (Debian/GNU)  <umlaeute@debian.org> - 2016-08-31 23:50 +0200

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