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Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos

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Hi,

Am 20.09.22 um 16:13 schrieb Emanuele Rocca:
> Salsa CI is useful because it automatically performs binary/source builds,
> arm64 crossbuilds, and it runs various pretty important tests such as lintian,
> piuparts, reproducible build testing, and more. It also runs autopkgtest in
> LXC.

quite most of these steps I usually need to do locally before I do any 
upload of packages. So I see no real gain to run any pipeline by 
default, for me this would be just burning energy in CPU cycles just for 
"because we can".

CI/CD makes sense for me within a greater view such as is a version 
upgrade of package A not break other stuff in other packages, like does 
working all packages that now need to use a new version of pytest or 
setuptools, django etc. But that's not ready within the current way the 
default CI pipeline is working (in my POV).

So no, for me it makes currently no sense to enable a CI thingy for ALL 
packages by default!

We have automatic Lintian checks, the buildds itself, and also the 
autopkgtest infrastructure, why double such things, that's waste of 
energy and resources! The packages are not getting better by running 
tests multiple times within the same environment.
And given my experience within other teams and groups, nobody really 
cares about packages that fail in some tests within a CI run. I strongly 
believe it wouldn't be better here.

> Sure you can do all this manually on your own, but it's better to live in a
> world where the machines work for us rather than the other way around. :-)

I still don't see why this is a benefit.
If you use an CI option within your own namespace is another thing, 
doing so make sense to me to prepare a new version for uploading.

-- 
Regards
Carsten

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Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2022-09-19 12:50 +0200
  Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team  repos Iñaki Malerba <ina@malerba.space> - 2022-09-19 14:20 +0200
    Re: [Debian-salsa-ci] Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team  repos Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-09-19 17:10 +0200
  Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-09-19 19:20 +0200
  Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-09-19 20:20 +0200
    Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2022-09-20 10:40 +0200
      Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-09-20 14:40 +0200
        Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2022-09-20 16:20 +0200
          Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2022-09-20 17:40 +0200
            Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-09-20 21:20 +0200
              Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2022-09-21 12:20 +0200
                Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2022-09-23 01:10 +0200
            Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2022-09-21 12:00 +0200
              Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> - 2022-09-21 12:40 +0200
              Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2022-09-23 04:40 +0200
              Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Carsten Schoenert <c.schoenert@t-online.de> - 2022-09-23 07:10 +0200
                Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2022-09-23 08:30 +0200
                Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr> - 2022-09-23 09:00 +0200
            Re: Enabling salsa-ci on all Debian Python Team repos Arnaud Ferraris <aferraris@debian.org> - 2022-09-21 13:20 +0200

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