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Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures

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Subject	Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:42 PM Ole Streicher wrote:

> But this is also the case for all packages which implicitly depend on
> other packages which are not available on some architectures.

This is true, but it doesn't make for a good user experience.

> Generally, arch:all packages depend on a lot of architecture dependent
> packages, and unless one resolves the whole dependency chain, there is
> no way to check whether a package is actually installable.

The buildds have installability checking for build-deps (IIRC using
dose), so some sort of QA service could be doing these sort of checks
more cheaply than installing arch:all packages outside of amd64. Also
unfortunately piuparts.d.o doesn't yet support multiple arches, but
there is probably some coverage of arch:all packages on debci, not
sure if it tests them on multiple arches though.

-- 
bye,
pabs

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Thread

Generic Python packages which don’t work on all  architectures Stephen Kitt <skitt@debian.org> - 2021-01-20 20:50 +0100
  Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2021-01-20 21:10 +0100
  Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 02:50 +0100
    Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Christian Kastner <ckk@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 08:10 +0100
    Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 14:20 +0100
      Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 14:30 +0100
        Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 16:50 +0100
          Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-01-22 00:40 +0100
            Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2021-01-22 00:50 +0100
            Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2021-01-22 10:00 +0100
      Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on  all architectures Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2021-01-21 14:40 +0100
        Re: Generic Python packages which don’t work on all architectures Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2021-01-21 16:20 +0100

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