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Re: How to watch pypi.org

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From Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org>
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Subject Re: How to watch pypi.org
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On 2020-10-31 12:03:50 +0100 (+0100), Thomas Goirand wrote:
[...]
> On 10/31/20 3:07 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > I have to agree, though in the upstream projects with which I'm
> > involved, those generated files are basically a lossy re-encoding of
> > metadata from the Git repositories themselves: AUTHORS file
> > generated from committer headers, ChangeLog files from commit
> > subjects, version information from tag names, and so on. Some of
> > this information may be referenced from copyright licenses, so it's
> > important in those cases for package maintainers to generate it when
> > making their source packages if not using the sdist tarballs
> > published by the project.
> 
> Unfortunately, the FTP masters do not agree with you. I've been told
> that the OpenStack changelog is a way too big, and it's preferable to
> not have it in the binary packages.

PBR started creating much smaller changelogs years ago, after you
asked ftpmaster. I get that you see no value in changelog files, but
it seems like it would be worth revisiting.

> Also, there's nothing in the Apache license that mandates having
> an AUTHORS list as per what PBR builds. If we are to care that
> much in OpenStack, then the license must be changed.
[...]

I agree, it's not commonplace in OpenStack other than this possible
exception:

https://opendev.org/openstack/python-openstackclient/src/branch/master/doc/source/cli/man/openstack.rst#user-content-copyright

You do tend to find it in other Python projects however, for
example:

https://github.com/pygments/pygments/blob/master/LICENSE#L1

My point was that, in general, some Python projects do autogenerate
an AUTHORS file from commit metadata at dist time rather than
storing it directly in a file within their Git repositories, and
some projects (including Python projects) refer to AUTHORS from
copyright statements, so it's a good idea to build/keep it.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley

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How to watch pypi.org Fioddor Superconcentrado <fioddor@gmail.com> - 2020-10-04 17:30 +0200
  Re: How to watch pypi.org Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2020-10-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: How to watch pypi.org Fioddor Superconcentrado <fioddor@gmail.com> - 2020-10-30 15:10 +0100
  Re: How to watch pypi.org Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2020-10-04 17:50 +0200
    Re: How to watch pypi.org Fioddor Superconcentrado <fioddor@gmail.com> - 2020-10-30 15:10 +0100
  Re: How to watch pypi.org Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-10-05 04:30 +0200
    Re: How to watch pypi.org Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-10-05 05:10 +0200
      Re: How to watch pypi.org, example Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2020-10-05 08:20 +0200
    Re: How to watch pypi.org Fioddor Superconcentrado <fioddor@gmail.com> - 2020-10-30 15:20 +0100
      Re: How to watch pypi.org Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2020-10-30 15:30 +0100
      Re: How to watch pypi.org Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-10-31 02:40 +0100
        Re: How to watch pypi.org Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2020-10-31 03:40 +0100
          Re: How to watch pypi.org Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2020-10-31 05:30 +0100
      Re: How to watch pypi.org Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2020-10-31 12:10 +0100
        Re: How to watch pypi.org Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2020-10-31 13:20 +0100
          Re: How to watch pypi.org Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2020-11-01 20:30 +0100
            Re: How to watch pypi.org Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2020-11-01 21:10 +0100
        Re: How to watch pypi.org Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2020-10-31 15:50 +0100
          Re: How to watch pypi.org Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2020-10-31 18:40 +0100

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