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Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change

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Hi,

Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> writes:

> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 5:49:20 PM EDT Stefano Rivera wrote:
>> Hi Scott (2020.04.30_20:33:59_+0000)
>> 
>> > > That seems reasonable, although if we're going down that road, it
>> > > probably makes no sense for any of them to be universal.
>> > 
>> > If we were talking about maintaining this for multiple release cycles with
>> > lots of version divergence, I would agree.  Let's not do more than we have
>> > to until python2 is gone (whether it is before bullseye or after).
>> 
>> I suspect pypy (2.7) will probably be around post-bullseye, unless
>> somebody funds pypy to migrate rpython to python 3.
>> 
>> But yeah, we can change strategy later, if appropriate.
>
> Well, we have also talked about pypy vendoring as much of the python2.7 
> package as it needs to build itself so we don't have to support it in the 
> archive as an active interpreter, but that's a different discussion.
>

I think that discussion must have been before I joined the team :-) It's
only recently that I became aware of pypy, and I assumed it had been
discounted because it weakened the argument (and/or was bad for morale)
for the py2 removal initiative we saw in 2019.

I can't remember if it was on reddit or stackoverflow, but apparently
people are considering pypy 2.7 as a solution to their py2 technical
debt.

It makes sense that a vendoring/bootstrapping/dfsg-compliance issue was
the reason the avenue wasn't explored in Debian, and I'm happy to hear
that this was the reason pypy wasn't explored as an alternative--and not
my assumption.

Thanks,
Nicholas

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Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-04-30 05:30 +0200
  Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-04-30 09:30 +0200
    Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-04-30 12:00 +0200
      Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-04-30 18:30 +0200
        Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2020-04-30 20:40 +0200
          Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-04-30 22:40 +0200
            Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2020-04-30 23:50 +0200
              Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-05-01 00:30 +0200
                Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2020-05-01 22:50 +0200
                Re: Python Wheel Related Policy Change Nicholas D Steeves <nsteeves@gmail.com> - 2020-05-01 23:10 +0200

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