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  cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2015-08-18 18:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Simon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at> - 2015-08-18 18:30 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Majid HUSSAIN <mhussaincov@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 19:00 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Hendrik Boom <hendrik@topoi.pooq.com> - 2015-08-18 19:10 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? "Lennart Sorensen" <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> - 2015-08-18 19:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Ana Guerrero Lopez <ana@debian.org> - 2015-08-18 18:40 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? VDR User <user.vdr@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 01:00 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp> - 2015-08-18 20:40 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-19 00:30 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? humbert.olivier.1@free.fr - 2015-08-19 01:10 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 01:20 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 06:10 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name> - 2015-08-19 07:50 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Ogge Sjölin <ogge@tuaril.org> - 2015-08-19 08:20 +0200
      Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 09:50 +0200
        Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 03:50 +0200
          Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp> - 2015-08-21 08:00 +0200
            Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2015-08-22 19:20 +0200
              Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <mathieu.tl@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 22:00 +0200
    Re: cdimage?? What should we call it? Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2015-08-25 18:20 +0200

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#45471 — cdimage?? What should we call it?

Hey folks,

We called our main installer images distribution site
cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:

 * lots of people are using USB sticks
 * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
 * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
   soon!)

So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)

Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"I can't ever sleep on planes ... call it irrational if you like, but I'm
 afraid I'll miss my stop" -- Vivek Das Mohapatra

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#45472

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey folks,

> We called our main installer images distribution site
> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:

>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>    soon!)

> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)

> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.


 - seedy-image.debian.org
 - mothership.debian.org
 - ftp.debian.org
 - image-master.debian.org
 - get.debian.org

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                    http://www.debian.org/
slangasek@ubuntu.com                                     vorlon@debian.org

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#45473

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Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to
decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there:

https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage

Bye,

Simon



Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Hey folks,
> 
>> We called our main installer images distribution site 
>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it
>> published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things
>> have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking
>> more silly over time:
> 
>> * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live
>> images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images
>> (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!)
> 
>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had 
>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but
>> it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for
>> pictures... :-)
> 
>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
> 
> 
> - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org -
> image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org
> 
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#45475

hi there,
hows about
iso.debian.org?
it makes sence to me at least.
thoughts?
Majid

On 18/08/2015, Simon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at> wrote:
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> Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to
> decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage
>
> Bye,
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> Hey folks,
>>
>>> We called our main installer images distribution site
>>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it
>>> published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things
>>> have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking
>>> more silly over time:
>>
>>> * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live
>>> images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images
>>> (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!)
>>
>>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
>>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but
>>> it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for
>>> pictures... :-)
>>
>>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
>>
>>
>> - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org -
>> image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org
>>
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#45476

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:34:39PM +0100, Majid HUSSAIN wrote:
> hi there,
> hows about
> iso.debian.org?

People have been calling them iso's

-- hendrik

> it makes sence to me at least.
> thoughts?
> Majid
> 
> On 18/08/2015, Simon Kainz <simon@familiekainz.at> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA512
> >
> > Well, i created a Wiki Page for this, making it probably easier to
> > decide upon things. I copied the already proposed names there:
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/NewNameForCDImage
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 2015-08-18 um 18:15 schrieb Steve Langasek:
> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >>> Hey folks,
> >>
> >>> We called our main installer images distribution site
> >>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it
> >>> published and most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things
> >>> have moved on in the intervening years, and this name is looking
> >>> more silly over time:
> >>
> >>> * lots of people are using USB sticks * we're providing live
> >>> images that don't fit on CD * we're providing cloud images
> >>> (Openstack so far, with others coming soon!)
> >>
> >>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
> >>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but
> >>> it's also likely to confuse people into looking there for
> >>> pictures... :-)
> >>
> >>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
> >>
> >>
> >> - seedy-image.debian.org - mothership.debian.org - ftp.debian.org -
> >> image-master.debian.org - get.debian.org
> >>
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#45479

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:34:39PM +0100, Majid HUSSAIN wrote:
> hi there,
> hows about
> iso.debian.org?
> it makes sence to me at least.
> thoughts?

But it also has usb compatible images, pxe and other netboot images,
hd images, etc.

It is not just ISOs.

-- 
Len Sorensen

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#45474

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 06:15:46PM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
>  - get.debian.org

get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE
would be great.

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#45486

> get.debian.org and redirections for every release like get.debian.org/$RELEASE
> would be great.

That would be perfect! get.debian.org/testing here I come! :)

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#45481

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200
Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>  - get.debian.org

 I prefer this since easy to understand and type :)

-- 
Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>

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#45483

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
>On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:15:46 +0200
>Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>>  - get.debian.org
>
> I prefer this since easy to understand and type :)

I think it's a cool name, and my clear favourite thus far. :-)

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"Every time you use Tcl, God kills a kitten." -- Malcolm Ray

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#45487

>>Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
>>  - get.debian.org

+1

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#45488

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

download.debian.org ?

-- 
Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org>

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Hi Steve and others,

Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> (2015-08-18):
> We called our main installer images distribution site
> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published and
> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:
> 
>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>    soon!)
> 
> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)
> 
> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.

Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without
having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about
naming in this or that conversation.

Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
 - get.debian.org
 - download.debian.org
 - install.debian.org
 - installer.debian.org

I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
different (yet appropriate).


Mraw,
KiBi.

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Hi all,

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:08:08AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
>  - get.debian.org
>  - download.debian.org
>  - install.debian.org
>  - installer.debian.org
> 
> I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
> different (yet appropriate).
+1

Thanks, Marco

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#45492

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download.debian.org is very good.

On 19 August 2015 06:08:08 CEST, Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> wrote:
>Hi Steve and others,
>
>Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> (2015-08-18):
>> We called our main installer images distribution site
>> cdimage.debian.org a long time ago, when that was all it published
>and
>> most people downloaded images of CDs. Ummm. Things have moved on in
>> the intervening years, and this name is looking more silly over time:
>> 
>>  * lots of people are using USB sticks
>>  * we're providing live images that don't fit on CD
>>  * we're providing cloud images (Openstack so far, with others coming
>>    soon!)
>> 
>> So, I'm looking for suggestions. What should we call it? I had
>> initially thought that images.debian.org is more generic, but it's
>> also likely to confuse people into looking there for pictures... :-)
>> 
>> Please reply and let's see if we can come up with a better name.
>
>Thanks, it'd been slightly annoying me over the past few years without
>having quite triggered something more than an occasional 'meh' about
>naming in this or that conversation.
>
>Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
> - get.debian.org
> - download.debian.org
> - install.debian.org
> - installer.debian.org
>
>I like the “action” aspect of the first 3, the last one being a bit
>different (yet appropriate).
>
>
>Mraw,
>KiBi.

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#45493

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:

> Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
>  - get.debian.org
>  - download.debian.org
>  - install.debian.org
>  - installer.debian.org

I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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#45509

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On Wednesday 19 August 2015 09:45:36 Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Looking at the various proposals, those caught my attention:
> >  - get.debian.org
> >  - download.debian.org
> >  - install.debian.org
> >  - installer.debian.org
> 
> I kind-of like the idea of pointing all of these to the relevant service.

And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.

-- 

Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/

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#45516

On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.

 Not only canonical but also gentoo does. 
 https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ 
 (and I like their newer website design...)

 
-- 
Hideki Yamane <henrich@debian.or.jp>

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#45534

Hi,

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
> Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the idea.
> 
>  Not only canonical but also gentoo does. 
>  https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/ 
>  (and I like their newer website design...)

I think Lisandro meant "the canonical location," as in, "the normal name
that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it," not "the
name that canonical (the company) uses".

But yeah, that would work too :-)

-- 
It is easy to love a country that is famous for chocolate and beer

  -- Barack Obama, speaking in Brussels, Belgium, 2014-03-26

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#45536

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On Aug 22, 2015 7:16 PM, "Wouter Verhelst" <wouter@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 07:20:53AM +0200, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:40:32 -0300
> > Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > And having get.debian.org as canonical maybe? But indeed I like the
idea.
> >
> >  Not only canonical but also gentoo does.
> >  https://get.gentoo.org redirects https://www.gentoo.org/downloads/
> >  (and I like their newer website design...)
>
> I think Lisandro meant "the canonical location," as in, "the normal name
> that you'd use, with the others being merely aliases for it," not "the
> name that canonical (the company) uses".
>

And I think Lisandro meant it being the A name, with cdimage staying as a
CNAME so it's still reachable, rather than the other way around :-)

/ Matt

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