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Bug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?

Started byjim_p <pitsiorisj@gmail.com>
First post2020-03-12 10:00 +0100
Last post2020-03-30 15:50 +0200
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  Bug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos? jim_p <pitsiorisj@gmail.com> - 2020-03-12 10:00 +0100
    Bug#953680: marked as done (linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When  will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?) "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2020-03-30 10:20 +0200
    Bug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos? jim_p <pitsiorisj@gmail.com> - 2020-03-30 14:00 +0200
      Bug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos? Laurence Parry <greenreaper@gmail.com> - 2020-03-30 15:50 +0200

#66517 — Bug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?

Fromjim_p <pitsiorisj@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-12 10:00 +0100
SubjectBug#953680: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?
Message-ID<zJrR7-6ho-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Package: linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64
Severity: normal

Kernel 5.5 was released more than a month ago, on January 26th 2020, and it has
not reached the repos yet. There is only its rc5 revision, which isn't the last
rc, and it is on experimental only. Why?

Meanwhile, 5.6, now on rc5, will be released in a couple of weeks, so maybe you
should skip 5.5 altogether.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.4.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64 depends on:
ii  initramfs-tools [linux-initramfs-tool]  0.136
ii  kmod                                    27-1
ii  linux-base                              4.6

Versions of packages linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64 recommends:
pn  apparmor             <none>
ii  firmware-linux-free  20200122-1

Versions of packages linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64 suggests:
pn  debian-kernel-handbook  <none>
ii  extlinux                3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-2
ii  grub-pc                 2.04-5
pn  linux-doc-5.5           <none>

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#66645 — Bug#953680: marked as done (linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?)

From"Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org>
Date2020-03-30 10:20 +0200
SubjectBug#953680: marked as done (linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?)
Message-ID<zPXOj-4vw-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Your message dated Mon, 30 Mar 2020 08:10:09 +0000
with message-id <E1jIpUn-000G7D-Hy@fasolo.debian.org>
and subject line Bug#953680: fixed in linux 5.5.13-1
has caused the Debian Bug report #953680,
regarding linux-image-5.5.0-rc5-amd64: When will the stable version of 5.5 reach the repos?
to be marked as done.

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If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the
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#66654

Fromjim_p <pitsiorisj@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-30 14:00 +0200
Message-ID<zQ1fc-6qz-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#66517
Source: linux
Followup-For: Bug #953680

I just got the email that notified me that this bug report was closed because
kernel 5.5 (5.5.13 in fact) has reached unstable.
Kernel 5.6 was released yesterday from upstream, so isn't it a bit late now for
5.5?

Normally, I install it as soon as it hits the repo, then I let dkms fail in
building nvidia legacy 340 for it, so I file a bug report for the driver, along
with the needed patches. I think I will skip it this time and wait for 5.6,
sorry.

On top of that, I think that you should have built at least one minor update of
5.4 all that time, because the 5.4 is now at 5.4.28, 9 minor versions ahead
than the one on the repo.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 5.4.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

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#66657

FromLaurence Parry <greenreaper@gmail.com>
Date2020-03-30 15:50 +0200
Message-ID<zQ2XE-7vC-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#66654

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> Kernel 5.6 was released yesterday
> from upstream, so isn't it a bit late
> now for 5.5?

From what I've seen, it's not unusual for Debian's kernel team to wait
several minor point releases until there is a kernel they're happy with -
indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the policy is to wait until the initial
version of the *next* major release is out.

Often early kernel revisions have a fair share of issues - often not
limited to the new features added in that major release. They are typically
also backported to otherwise stable systems, so picking a good revision has
some importance. Meanwhile, most fixes do make it into earlier stable
kernels.

To take one example, 5.5.9 had a fix for btrfs' new checksum feature, which
didn't work properly with direct I/O. So if you updated to 5.5 on its
initial release and made a new FS to use it, you might have had an
unpleasant surprise and spent a lot of time debugging a problem.

There was also a nasty bug in early 5.2 releases which led to delayed
writes not being flushed to disk, and ultimately data loss. Unfortunately
in that case it was fixed too late and made it into Debian backports. But
usually, the delay helps to avoid that kind of thing.

Of course, if you really want a new feature, you can download and compile a
kernel yourself, either from kernel.org - which is what I ended up doing to
get those checksums - using Debian's git repo. But that has the risk of
not-fully-working code, so I'll probably be sticking with the 5.5.13 I have
rather than going to 5.6 right away.

As for a later release of 5.4, one of the Debian kernel team members
indicated on the list a few weeks ago that they preferred to go to 5.5,
which is what has ended up happening:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2020/03/msg00086.html

Best regards,
--
Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry

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