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Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/

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  Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/ Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2025-05-25 18:30 +0200
    Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/ Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2025-05-26 12:30 +0200
      Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/ Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2025-05-28 22:40 +0200
        Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/ Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2025-05-28 23:30 +0200

#87682 — Bug#1092550: procps: Addback/Provide example of sysctl.d/*.conf like the old sysctl.conf under /usr/share/doc/

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 16:23:32 +1100 Craig Small <csmall@debian.org>
wrote:
> reassign -1 linux-sysctl-defaults
> thankyou
> 
> The procps package doesn't carry any of the sysctl configuration files
> anymore, but they're in the linux-sysctl-defaults
> so reassigning to that package.
[...]

linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only.  Therefore I
don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.

What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else.

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On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 02:05, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:

> linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only.  Therefore I
> don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.
>
> What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?
>
I can do that, but on a standard Debian system you're not even using the
procps sysctl to do the parsing as it is systemd-sysctl in the systemd
package doing it.

It's not going to hurt putting it there, I'm just not sure anyone is going
to find it because the
only reason for an example sysctl file is historical.

 - Craig

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On Mon, 2025-05-26 at 20:13 +1000, Craig Small wrote:
> On Mon, 26 May 2025 at 02:05, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:
> > linux-sysctl-defaults is meant to provide defaults only.  Therefore I
> > don't think it is appropriate to add that example/template to it.
> > 
> > What is the problem with keeping an example in procps?
> > 
> 
> I can do that, but on a standard Debian system you're not even using the 
> procps sysctl to do the parsing as it is systemd-sysctl in the systemd package doing it.

I'm well aware of that.

> It's not going to hurt putting it there, I'm just not sure anyone is going to find it because the
> only reason for an example sysctl file is historical.

I think system administrators looking to experiment with sysctl changes
are more likely to reaach for procps and the sysctl command, because:

- sysctl is on the path while systemd-sysctl isn't
- "apt search sysctl" finds procps and not systemd
- A web search for "linux sysctl examples" finds mostly pages mentioning
the sysctl command

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Always try to do things in chronological order;
it's less confusing that way.

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reassign -1 procps
thankyou

On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 06:33, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:

> I think system administrators looking to experiment with sysctl changes
> are more likely to reaach for procps and the sysctl command, because:
>
> - sysctl is on the path while systemd-sysctl isn't
> - "apt search sysctl" finds procps and not systemd
> - A web search for "linux sysctl examples" finds mostly pages mentioning
> the sysctl command
>
That seems fair enough, I'll put them into procps.

 - Craig

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