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Bug#1104793: Consistent naming with LTS-backported kernels

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  Bug#1104793: Consistent naming with LTS-backported kernels Christopher Huhn <C.Huhn@gsi.de> - 2025-05-06 16:30 +0200
    Bug#1104793: closing 1104793 Christopher Huhn <c.huhn@gsi.de> - 2025-05-07 12:40 +0200
      Bug#1104793: closing 1104793 Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2025-05-07 13:10 +0200
    Processed: Re: Bug#1104793: closing 1104793 "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2025-05-07 13:10 +0200

#87397 — Bug#1104793: Consistent naming with LTS-backported kernels

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Hi y'all

LTS and ELTS provide backports of the stable kernel for all releases 
(currently Stretch to Bullseye). These packages come with
linux-<component>-<major>.<minor>-<flavor> meta-packages eg.
linux-image-6.1-amd64.
This is a very nice feature making it possible to run the same kernel 
version on a whole fleet of nodes with diverse Debian releases by 
installing a uniformly named package.

Unfortunately no such packages exist in Debian stable at the moment.

So I'd propose that linux-<component>-<flavor> always also
> Provides: linux-<component>-<major>.<minor>-<flavor>

Cheers

Christopher


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#87427 — Bug#1104793: closing 1104793

Hello Salvatore,

 > This is out of scope for a stable release where we do support only 
one > upstream stable series via security updates as well.

I don't quite understand your explanation.
Providing additional meta-packages for Trixie like 
linux-image-6.12-amd64 in addition to linux-image-amd64 aso. has neither 
to do with supporting multiple kernel versions in Debian stable nor 
backports of any sort – or has it?

 > The story is different for LTS (and ELTS).

This is exactly my point because I'd like it to be consistent and have 
linux-image-6.12-amd64 etc. on Bookworm, Bullseye, Buster *and* Trixie.

I asked about this on debian-lts first and was asked to open a bug 
report against src:linux[1].

Best

Christopher

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2025/05/msg00011.html

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#87430 — Bug#1104793: closing 1104793

Control: reopen -1

Hi Christoph,

Thanks for your time in coming back to the bug and explaining your
viewpoint.

On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 12:18:24PM +0200, Christopher Huhn wrote:
> Hello Salvatore,
> 
> > This is out of scope for a stable release where we do support only one >
> upstream stable series via security updates as well.
> 
> I don't quite understand your explanation.
> Providing additional meta-packages for Trixie like linux-image-6.12-amd64 in
> addition to linux-image-amd64 aso. has neither to do with supporting
> multiple kernel versions in Debian stable nor backports of any sort – or has
> it?
> 
> > The story is different for LTS (and ELTS).
> 
> This is exactly my point because I'd like it to be consistent and have
> linux-image-6.12-amd64 etc. on Bookworm, Bullseye, Buster *and* Trixie.
> 
> I asked about this on debian-lts first and was asked to open a bug report
> against src:linux[1].

Right, since it was Ben himself replying on the debian-lts thread (who
is maintaining the kernel for LTS and ELTS) I will reopen the bug and
see with him if we want to do that.

In LTS and ELTS they provide multiple source packages and support
them, and that was my point that we won't do that for stable.

But maybe he has a concrete idea on providing additional metapackages
only to be used in the bookworm-backports provided versions so once
you have backports enabled you could install those via these package
names as well.

Regards,
Salvatore

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#87429 — Processed: Re: Bug#1104793: closing 1104793

Processing control commands:

> reopen -1
Bug #1104793 {Done: Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org>} [src:linux] Consistent naming with LTS-backported kernels
Bug reopened
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #1104793 to the same values previously set

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