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Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages

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  Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2024-07-27 11:30 +0200
    Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2024-07-27 12:10 +0200
      Processed: Re: Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus  unable to download missing packages "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2024-07-27 12:10 +0200

#83243 — Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages

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On Saturday, 27 July 2024 10:54:22 CEST Dan Jacobson wrote:
> That's exactly what happened to me.
> Not all users automatically install recommends.

Those users are ofc allowed to make that choice, but they then also accept the 
consequences that go with it.

What you asked for is exactly how it was implemented:
misc-nonfree Recommends all the packages where firmware files which were in 
misc-nonfree before, but are now in one of the new packages.
Which allows them to remove the Recommended packages they don't need.

Next to the Recommends solution, you should have also received/seen a NEWS 
item, which explains what to do in the new situation.
Did you not receive/see that? Or was the text unclear?

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Control: reopen -1
Control: retitle -1 Please extend NEWS to clarify what users can and should do

On Saturday, 27 July 2024 11:30:37 CEST Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Yes. The news item needs to warn:
> 
> ** Warning: if you take no action, upon the next boot you might
> 1. Not be able to network.
> 2. Not be able to see your screen.
> 3. Not be able to boot.
> and thus unable to install the new packages to fix it too.
> Therefore be sure to install the new packages ... now, unless you are
> sure you know what you are doing.

I guess it won't hurt to expand the NEWS item to:
- Make sure users have installed the Recommended packages they need
- Inform them that they can remove the automatically installed Recommended
  packages they don't need (which may help with the initramfs-tools bug in
  0.142 and the IMO too small default /boot partition)

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#83245 — Processed: Re: Bug#1077238: Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages

Processing control commands:

> reopen -1
Bug #1077238 {Done: Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org>} [firmware-misc-nonfree] Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages
Bug reopened
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #1077238 to the same values previously set
> retitle -1 Please extend NEWS to clarify what users can and should do
Bug #1077238 [firmware-misc-nonfree] Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages
Changed Bug title to 'Please extend NEWS to clarify what users can and should do' from 'Upgrade will break networking, thus unable to download missing packages'.

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