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Re: Agenda items for kernel-team meeting on 2026-08-19

From Yunseong Kim <ysk@kzalloc.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.kernel
Subject Re: Agenda items for kernel-team meeting on 2026-08-19
Date 2026-08-19 17:20 +0200
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Hi Ben,

On 19/08/2026 3:56 pm, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> This week's meeting will happen today (2026-08-19) at 21:00 CEST = 19:00
> UTC.  This time it will be on Jitsi if possible, otherwise we will fall
> back to IRC.
> 
> The agenda is here:
> https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/meetings/-/wikis/20260819
> 
> I will attempt to add summaries of each bug's status before the meeting.
> 
> Please reply to this message if you want to add items.

Recently, I started drafting some guidance on avoiding unhelpful or
harmful AI-generated kernel bug reports, including reports submitted
without using reportbug.

Do you think it would be worthwhile to add a section to the kernel
handbook [1], extend the DebianKernelReportingBugs wiki page [2], or
perhaps create a dedicated page covering this topic?

A rough draft is below:

---

= Debian Kernel Bug Reporting Etiquette: AI-Generated Reports =

AI tools can be useful for improving writing quality, but they should
not replace the factual information needed for diagnosing kernel issues.

Submitting unverified AI-generated output to the bug tracker or kernel
mailing lists is not a substitute for a proper bug report. Maintainers
and developers volunteer significant amounts of time to investigate
reported issues, and providing fabricated, guessed, or AI-invented
technical details wastes that effort.

When reporting kernel bugs, please provide real observations, actual
logs, reproduction steps, and system information.

Better yet, Please run: {{{
$ reportbug kernel }}}

The scripts in /usr/share/bug/linux-base/ and
/usr/share/bug/linux-image-*/ automatically collect information that
maintainers frequently need, including kernel taint status
(/proc/sys/kernel/tainted), loaded modules (lsmod), hardware details
(lspci -knn), and other diagnostic data [3].

If you are asking others to spend their time investigating a problem,
please provide accurate information gathered from the affected system.
Honest diagnostic data is far more valuable than unverifiable
AI-generated text.

= References =

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/kernel-handbook
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelReportingBugs
[3] https://kernel-team.pages.debian.net/kernel-handbook/ch-bugs.html#s9.1.1

---

> Ben.
> 

Best regards,
Yunseong

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  Re: Agenda items for kernel-team meeting on 2026-08-19 Yunseong Kim <ysk@kzalloc.com> - 2026-08-19 17:20 +0200
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