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Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap

From Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.kernel
Subject Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap
Date 2024-12-05 13:10 +0100
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Hi Bastian,

I think much of what you are asking here is already answered in my reply
to Ben's followup.

On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:33:28PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 06:15:57PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 03:35:21PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:03:24PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > > > A. Multi-Arch: foreign is a lie
> > > All the examples of yours will immediatelly fail to build anything with
> > > it.  So what harm is done?
> > This is practically untrue. Even with current unstable packages, the
> > sparc (32) bootstrap still succeeds.
> 
> I don't understand what succeeds.  Because missing asm/* headers pretty
> much makes it impossible to use anything from linux/*.  So the bootstrap
> either have it's own headers or it will bail out if it tries to include
> any kernel interface.
> 
> Can you please share the log for it?

You may find all the logs at
https://jenkins.debian.net/view/rebootstrap. Indeed, I missed the fact
that sparc is being patched in. And with patching it in, the complete
sparc bootstrap is still successful at this time. So yeah, sparc
immediately fails, but the main reason for that is linux and not some
other component.

I'm not gonna argue about sparc in particular. I'll just keep it alive
in rebootstrap as long as it is low effort. Once actual porting work
becomes necessary, I'll poke John Paul Adrian Glaubitz and if nothing
happens, discard sparc from my bootstrapping efforts.

So these architectures only served as examples here. mipsel and armel
look like they could be the next sparc.

> > Fair enough. Please add arc, cksy, mipsr6el, sh3, sparc, and
> > musl-linux-any. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Please make proper requests that are actionable.

I think you accurately captured the point of the request: It is not
actionable. The architectures referenced are work in progress to
different extents. You'll find more detail in my other mail.

Helmut

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Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-10-10 22:20 +0200
  Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-10-19 15:40 +0200
    Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-10-19 18:30 +0200
      Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-10-24 01:40 +0200
        Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-11-29 08:00 +0100
      Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-12-04 22:40 +0100
        Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-12-05 13:10 +0100
    Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-10-24 01:40 +0200
      Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-12-04 23:00 +0100
        Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-12-05 13:10 +0100
          Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-12-05 15:40 +0100
            Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2024-12-05 22:30 +0100
              Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-01-28 00:40 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-02-04 15:10 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap stefanor@debian.org - 2025-02-04 18:30 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-02-04 20:40 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2025-02-05 00:00 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2025-03-04 18:00 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-03-13 07:40 +0100
                Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-03-15 11:40 +0100
    Bug#1084908: arch:all linux-libc-dev causes problems to architecture bootstrap Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2024-11-29 14:20 +0100

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