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Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation

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On Tue, 2024-10-15 at 19:04 +0300, sergio wrote:
> Package: linux-sysctl-defaults
> Version: 4.10.1
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> please call `sysctl -p /usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf` after installation

Running that command is definitely not a good idea, as it will ignore
any other configuration files which should override the default
settings.

This was discussed at
<https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux-base/-/merge_requests/12#note_500942>
and there was a deliberate decision then not to do this.

Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> +1  Not doing so is leading to confusing/broken behavior during
> upgrades.  By deferring the application of the sysctl settings until
> reboot, we're effectively leaving the system in a half-upgraded state
> where applications that depend on sysctls set here will misbehave for
> confusing reasons until a reboot happens.
> 
> See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1085289 and
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1084135 for instances
> of issues caused during upgrades.

So it sounds like we do actually need to apply configuration on
installation, just not precisely as requested.

Looking at the postinst scripts of some other packages that install
sysctl configuration, I can see a diversity of approaches to this:

- bubblewrap runs "sysctl --pattern <sysctl-name>" which seems
  reasonable for a single sysctl but would be a pain to keep in sync
  with the configuration file.

- tracker-miner-fs runs "systemd-sysctl <filename>" which does not
  work without systemd and seems to have the same problem I mentioned
  above.

Whatever is decided for linux-sysctl-defaults should ideally be
implemented consistently across the other packages.

Would this work:

1. As discussed in the GitLab MR, systemd implements a file trigger on
   sysctl configuration files.

2. Either:
   (a) procps implements a similar trigger, but makes it a no-op when
       systemd is pid 1.
   (b) linux-sysctl-defaults postinst does:
       - if systemd is pid 1, nothing;
       - otherwise, if sysctl is installed, "sysctl --system";
       - otherwise, nothing.

?

I don't know how well those file triggers would interact with existing
postinst scripts for the other packages.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Klipstein's 4th Law of Prototyping and Production:
                               A fail-safe circuit will destroy others.

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Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation sergio <sergio+it@outerface.net> - 2024-10-15 18:30 +0200
  Processed: Re: Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting  after installation "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2024-10-18 23:10 +0200
  Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-10-18 23:10 +0200
  Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-10-24 02:10 +0200
    Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2024-10-24 12:30 +0200
      Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-10-30 20:10 +0100
        Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Craig Small <csmall@debian.org> - 2024-11-04 11:50 +0100
  Processed: Re: Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting  after installation "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2024-10-24 02:10 +0200
  Processed: Re: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after  installation "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2024-11-25 00:30 +0100
  Bug#1085160: linux-sysctl-defaults: apply setting after installation Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2024-11-25 00:30 +0100

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