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Re: Bug#1064976: linux-headers-6.6.13 bpo-amd64 incorrectly depends on the corresponding linux-image-amd64 package

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Please explain. I am really sorry to be dragging this discussion out, but I
honestly think there is some information I'm missing. Please tell me what I
am missing here? ** PLEASE ** read it before replying; I am honestly not
trying to undermine you, just point out a serious problem with the apparent
logic.

Your proposal is to have linux-headers-X depend on linux-image-X.

But:

* User installs linux-image-X and linux-headers-X
* User builds modules for this image using DKMS or whatever
* User then does "apt install linux-image-Y" - this is the exact scenario
you hope to guard against?
... nothing brings in linux-headers-Y; the user is *still* left without
their new modules.

Your proposal will only work if the user remembers to upgrade -headers...
which will fix the problem even without the dependency!

I fully understand that there is a desire for users to keep linux-image-*
and linux-headers-* in synch; my proposal is that a *further* package be
created - linux-complete-VERSION - which depends on both of them. Users who
have that package installed would always have the right thing happen. To
encourage adoption, it could be in "Suggests" from each, and maybe even in
DKMS?

Colm


On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 17:51, Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 02, 2024 at 05:38:01PM +0100, Colm Buckley wrote:
> > ... but the proposed dependency wouldn't address that, right?
>
> Actually it does.  It ties all packages together with = dependencies.
> For an upgrade, all packages need to be unpacked first and only then the
> maintainer scripts can run.
>
> There are cases where this can be broken, but working most of the time
> is better then working never.
>
> Bastian
>
> --
> Prepare for tomorrow -- get ready.
>                 -- Edith Keeler, "The City On the Edge of Forever",
>                    stardate unknown
>


-- 
Colm Buckley | colm@tuatha.org

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Re: Bug#1064976: linux-headers-6.6.13 bpo-amd64 incorrectly depends  on the corresponding linux-image-amd64 package Colm Buckley <colm@tuatha.org> - 2024-04-06 09:50 +0200
  Re: Bug#1064976: linux-headers-6.6.13 bpo-amd64 incorrectly depends  on the corresponding linux-image-amd64 package Colm Buckley <colm@tuatha.org> - 2024-04-06 09:51 +0200
  Re: Bug#1064976: linux-headers-6.6.13 bpo-amd64 incorrectly depends  on the corresponding linux-image-amd64 package Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-04-06 09:52 +0200

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