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Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE)

From Andrew Jorgensen <ajorgens@google.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.kernel
Subject Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE)
Date 2024-05-29 18:20 +0200
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> Andrew's question is a bit higher level than that, and mostly boils down
> to "Which cloud environments do we actually want to support with the
> cloud kernel?"

That's right. And I'd like it to include GCE, but there are a lot of
cloud environments out there so drawing a line somewhere can help keep
the cloud kernel lean, which appears to be one of the goals.

> > specifically targeted Amazon EC2 and Microsoft Azure.”
> Yes, this is the documented target.

Where is it documented?
https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud and
https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/SystemsComparison both imply at least
AWS, Azure, GCP, and OpenStack, but I didn't find a document about the
kernel specifically yet.
I don't mean to disagree, but to understand.

> We can support more clouds.  It is just a matter of taking care of it.
>
> I currently play with splitting the modules into multiple different
> sets, like almost all other distributions already do.  We would not need
> to do multiple builds then and more targeted packages would be possible
> if needed.

That could make sense. Some would not be split out, like virtio, I
think, but others like gVNIC (gve) obviously could be.

> We already backport the Microsoft MANA network driver.  So at least
> backports to stable are not that of a problem, if someone does it.

Interesting. I assume there's probably some backporting of Amazon ENA
(and EFA?) as well.

To use GCP's current generation bare metal requires the Intel IDPF
driver that landed in 6.7. Other OS vendors have backported it to
various versions, so it ought to be possible to backport it to 6.1 for
Debian. I'll talk to some people here about how we might do that.

Kind regards,
Andrew

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Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Andrew Jorgensen <ajorgens@google.com> - 2024-05-22 17:10 +0200
  Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Emanuele Rocca <ema@debian.org> - 2024-05-27 15:40 +0200
    Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Noah Meyerhans <noahm@debian.org> - 2024-05-27 17:50 +0200
  Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2024-05-27 21:10 +0200
  Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-05-28 17:20 +0200
    Re: Kernel features and Cloud (and GCE) Andrew Jorgensen <ajorgens@google.com> - 2024-05-29 18:20 +0200

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