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Bug#1041142: closed by Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> (Re: Debian's BTS is not for regular user questions)

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> This is a rather naive understanding of how logging is done in
> practice.  The reality is that developers often don't know (and maybe
> can't know) just how severe an odd condition may be in practice.

Unfortunately, neither do I.  Though seemingly unrelated journal-visible 
issues are quite often indeed independent, sometimes unexpected 
interactions or common root causes occur.

> If there is still an actual problem on this machine (not just warning
> messages), please open *1* bug report that describes the actual problem
> and the log messages.

If under *actual* you mean *user-disturbing* (“error, flaw or fault in 
the design, development, or operation of computer software that causes 
it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in 
unintended ways”, a definition from Wikipedia), I've got none for the 
kernel because the kernel is not visible (nor should it be visible) to 
users directly.  The only (sometimes reproducible) full lock-up (SysRq 
doesn't seem to work) I saw myself, which might concern the kernel, 
happened when epiphany-browser loads Google maps directly or embedded 
into a different Web site; I plan to submit a bug report.

As for other high-level problems which are already posted, there are at 
least two (and more are likely to come).

One of them, already resolved recently (though the root cause is still 
unknown, the intermediate problem is gone) is #1041014.  If I had to 
state the *actual* problem there, it would have been „the machine 
doesn't boot properly, the screen is black, the keyboard doesn't seem to 
respond“; such a description would've probably been considered *actual* 
but pretty useless to the maintainers.  Even if it would have been 
useful to you, then only in the sense that a failure to start a 
graphical user interface should not prevent text logins from visibly 
showing up on Ctrl + Alt + F1 … Ctrl + Alt + F6 and that error codes 
(instead of "ERRNO" and "exit-code") from failed spawns by systemd 
should be printed.

As another big problem on another machine, cf. #1040497.  A next step in 
debugging this could be looking at how /run/gdm3/custom.conf is created, 
whether the logic in /lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules is correct, and 
whether using X.Org (in Debian 12) instead of Wayland (in Debian 11) is 
really justified on the particular machine 
(https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/merge_requests/171#note_1403697 
doesn't apply in my use case because the onboard graphics chip is 
usually not connected to a monitor in my setup, except if the monitor 
connected to the PCIe NVIDIA card happens to fail, which has not yet 
happened).  If this issue involves the kernel at all, then probably the 
nouveau driver.  The details of this issue are beyond my level of 
expertise, so I'm unsure how much I can really do myself.

Gratefully,
Alma

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Bug#1041142: ACPI Warning: SystemIO range … conflicts with OpRegion … . lpc_ich: Resource conflict(s) found affecting gpio_ich AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-07-15 04:20 +0200
  Bug#1041142: marked as done (ACPI Warning: SystemIO range  … conflicts with OpRegion … .  lpc_ich: Resource conflict(s) found affecting gpio_ich) "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2023-08-01 01:20 +0200
  Bug#1041142: closed by Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> (Re: Debian's BTS is not for regular user questions) AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-08-01 03:00 +0200
    Bug#1041140: mass bug closing AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-08-01 03:20 +0200
    Bug#1041197: mass bug closing AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-08-01 03:30 +0200
    Bug#1041142: closed by Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> (Re: Debian's BTS is not for regular user questions) Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2023-08-01 19:40 +0200
      Bug#1041142: closed by Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> (Re: Debian's BTS is not for regular user questions) AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-08-01 21:20 +0200
        Bug#1041142: closed by Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> (Re: Debian's BTS is not for regular user questions) AlMa <AlMa0@ro.ru> - 2023-08-01 21:40 +0200

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