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Bug#998627: Come on!

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Hi,

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 08:41:29AM +0200, BW wrote:
> Is NTFS3 still not available, not even in Debian 12? After so long?
> Please don't be patronizing and think you now better than the users and
> decide what they need and don't.
> This is Linux, users are capable of deciding if this is useable for them or
> not.
> I don't think any will use NTFS as a production file-system on Linux! So
> don't use any excuse of missing utils or it is not stable. NTFS-3G is not
> stable and useable as production FS either.
> NTFS3 will for the huge majority of users be used in a utility-context,
> e.g. accessing/grapping files from a disk from a MS box etc.
> Please make it available

No it is not available even in Debian 12; Unless paragon-software show
to be active more on their subsystem.  Or let's say "maybe for trixie
it will be made available at some point". With a highlight on "maybe".

There is not enough confidence that it is well maintained upstream.
Additionally a stream of CVEs would have affected bookworm if we would
have enabled it. So, while not written in stone, it was the right
decision to not enable it for Debian 12.

https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=ntfs3 (gives a rough
overview)

And the story around fs/ntfs* and Debian requiring to mark it as
broken (cf.
https://salsa.debian.org/kernel-team/linux/commit/becaca2c809a9c8eeb45287d3ecc5c572cc49733)
should not be needed to be repeated.

Regards,
Salvatore

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