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please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later

From Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.kernel
Subject please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later
Date 2021-01-30 17:10 +0100
Message-ID <BD0YV-5Nt-1@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
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L.S.,

This is a request to consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and
later Debian builds of the Linux kernel on any architecture.

We are all familiar with the rigid rules when it comes to not breaking
userspace by making changes to the kernel, but this rule only takes
effect when anybody notices, and so I am proposing disabling some code
downstream before removing it entirely.

5.10 introduces a new Kconfig symbol

CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_ENABLE_OBSOLETE

which is enabled by default, but depends on support for the AF_ALG
socket API being enabled. In turn, block ciphers that are obsolete and
unlikely to be used anywhere have been made to depend on this new
symbol.

This means that these obsolete block ciphers will disappear entirely
when the AF_ALG socket API is omitted, but we can get rid of these
block ciphers explicitly too, by not setting the new symbol. I.e.,
adding

# CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_ENABLE_OBSOLETE is not set

to the kernel configs. Note that Fedora have already done so in release 33 [0]

The block ciphers in question are RC4, Khazad, SEED, and
TEA/XTEA/XETA, none of which are used by the kernel itself, or known
to be used via the socket API (although a change was applied to
iwd/libell recently to get rid of an occurrence of RC4 - this change
has already been pulled into bullseye afaik)

Note that this is not a statement on whether these algorithms are
secure or not -there is simply no point in carrying and shipping code
that nobody uses or audits, but which can be autoloaded and exercised
via an unprivileged interface.

--
Ard.

[0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jwboyer/fedora.git/commit/?h=f33

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please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> - 2021-01-30 17:10 +0100
  Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2021-02-01 22:30 +0100
    Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> - 2021-02-06 00:10 +0100
    Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2021-02-25 11:40 +0100
      Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> - 2021-02-25 12:30 +0100
        Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> - 2021-03-09 18:10 +0100
          Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2021-03-10 14:40 +0100
            Re: please consider disabling obsolete crypto in 5.10 and later Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> - 2021-03-10 15:00 +0100

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