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Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default

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Hi,

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 05:21:24PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 03:09:25 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > I don't think we should keep patching in
> > kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone forever, so the documented way to
> > disable user namespaces should be setting user.max_user_namespaces to
> > 0.  But then there's no good way to have a drop-in file that changes
> > back to the upstream default, because that's dependent on system memory
> > size.
> > 
> > So I think we should do something like this:
> > 
> > * Document user.max_user_namespaces in procps's shipped
> >   /etc/sysctl.conf
> > * Set kernel.unprivileged_userns_clone to 1 by default, and deprecate
> >   it (log a warning if it's changed)
> > * Document the change in bullseye release notes
> 
> Is this something you intend to do before bullseye, or is it now going
> to be after bullseye?
> 
> If this is intended to happen before bullseye, I'd like enough time
> before the freeze to put an as-graceful-as-possible transition in place
> in the bubblewrap package.
> 
> (I'm not sure what form that transition should take - suggestions welcome!
> Ideally I'd like bubblewrap to be setuid root if and only if we are still
> using a kernel where it needs to be.)

TBH, I think not having it enabled by default until now saved us a
couple of time from needing to release urgent fixes. It is more a gut
feeling and might not have enough weight: but having it still disabled
in bullseye by default we would be still better of from security
releases/DSA's perspectives.

Regards,
Salvatore

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Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org> - 2018-05-11 20:50 +0200
  Processed: Re: Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user  namespaces by default "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2018-05-13 01:40 +0200
  Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2018-05-13 01:40 +0200
    Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Frederik Himpe <frederik@frehi.be> - 2018-05-13 19:40 +0200
      Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2018-05-14 04:50 +0200
    Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2018-05-13 23:10 +0200
      Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2020-03-30 12:10 +0200
        Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-03-30 14:30 +0200
        Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2020-04-15 04:00 +0200
          Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2020-04-15 09:40 +0200
            Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2020-04-16 04:20 +0200
              Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2020-10-20 18:30 +0200
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Salvatore Bonaccorso <carnil@debian.org> - 2020-10-22 23:00 +0200
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2020-10-22 23:10 +0200
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2020-10-23 09:00 +0200
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org> - 2020-11-17 17:30 +0100
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2020-11-17 19:00 +0100
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2020-12-13 17:40 +0100
                Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2020-10-24 03:30 +0200
    Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Laurent Bigonville <bigon@debian.org> - 2018-05-14 07:30 +0200
  Processed: Re: Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user  namespaces by default "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2018-05-14 04:50 +0200
  Bug#898446: (no subject) Nikolas Nyby <nikolas@gnu.org> - 2019-03-06 15:50 +0100
  Bug#898446: Please reconsider enabling the user namespaces by default Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch> - 2020-10-23 17:30 +0200
  Bug#898446: marked as done (Please reconsider enabling the user  namespaces by default) "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2020-12-17 13:10 +0100

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