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DD's, Debian Mentors needs you!

Started byPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
First post2024-07-06 15:50 +0200
Last post2024-07-07 23:10 +0200
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  DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-06 15:50 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-07-06 19:00 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) <atzlinux@sina.com> - 2024-07-07 02:00 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 03:20 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 07:40 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Baptiste Beauplat <lyknode@debian.org> - 2024-07-08 21:40 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-09 07:40 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 02:50 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 03:10 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-07-07 08:00 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 08:30 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 09:20 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 09:50 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! weepingclown <weepingclown@disroot.org> - 2024-07-07 10:40 +0200
          Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 13:00 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 08:20 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 08:50 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 09:50 +0200
          Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-07-07 23:00 +0200
            Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 23:20 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 09:50 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2024-07-07 11:40 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-07 12:30 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 13:30 +0200
        Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-09 11:50 +0200
          Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Pierre-Elliott Bécue <peb@debian.org> - 2024-07-09 14:30 +0200
            Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Phil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2024-07-09 14:50 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2024-07-07 16:30 +0200
      Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-07-07 16:40 +0200
    Re: DD's, Debian Mentors needs you! Leandro Cunha <leandrocunha016@gmail.com> - 2024-07-07 23:10 +0200

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#112371 — DD's, Debian Mentors needs you!

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-06 15:50 +0200
SubjectDD's, Debian Mentors needs you!
Message-ID<IXdXz-eFy-7@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hi all DD's

Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.

We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for sponsorship and we would request
any DD who has the time and is willing, to have a look at one or more of the packages below and
possibly sponsor them into Debian.

Mentors page:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008

Mentors page:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542

Mentors page:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552

Mentors page:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553

Mentor page:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592

Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a time on the 'devel' list
works, this could become a weekly thing.

[1] https://mentors.debian.net

Regards

Phil

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#112374

FromSoren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>
Date2024-07-06 19:00 +0200
Message-ID<IXgVr-gyZ-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:45:33 AM MST Phil Wyett wrote:
> Hi all DD's
> 
> Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for
> final reviewing and sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the
> project.
> 
> We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for
> sponsorship and we would request any DD who has the time and is willing, to
> have a look at one or more of the packages below and possibly sponsor them
> into Debian.
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553

I will take dmidecode.

> Mentor page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> 
> Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a
> time on the 'devel' list works, this could become a weekly thing.
> 
> [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil


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#112375

Fromxiao sheng wen(肖盛文) <atzlinux@sina.com>
Date2024-07-07 02:00 +0200
Message-ID<IXntT-kLz-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,

  Support this become a weekly thing or a monthly thing.

Can mentors.debian.net sent package list to  debian-devel automatically?

Regards,
xiao sheng wen
在 2024/7/6 21:45, Phil Wyett 写道:
> Hi all DD's
> 
> Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.
> 
> We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for sponsorship and we would request
> any DD who has the time and is willing, to have a look at one or more of the packages below and
> possibly sponsor them into Debian.
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
> 
> Mentor page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> 
> Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a time on the 'devel' list
> works, this could become a weekly thing.
> 
> [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 

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#112378

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-07 03:20 +0200
Message-ID<IXoJj-lIG-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 07:41 +0800, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   Support this become a weekly thing or a monthly thing.
> 
> Can mentors.debian.net sent package list to  debian-devel automatically?
> 
> Regards,
> xiao sheng wen
> 在 2024/7/6 21:45, Phil Wyett 写道:
> > Hi all DD's
> > 
> > Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> > sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.
> > 
> > We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for sponsorship and we would request
> > any DD who has the time and is willing, to have a look at one or more of the packages below and
> > possibly sponsor them into Debian.
> > 
> > Mentors page:
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> > 
> > Mentors page:
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> > 
> > Mentors page:
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> > 
> > Mentors page:
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
> > 
> > Mentor page:
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> > 
> > Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a time on the 'devel' list
> > works, this could become a weekly thing.
> > 
> > [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Phil
> > 
> 
> -- 
> 肖盛文 xiao sheng wen
> https://www.atzlinux.com 《铜豌豆 Linux》基于 Debian 的 Linux 中文 桌面 
> 操作系统
> Debian QA page: 
> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=atzlinux%40sina.com
> Debian salsa: https://salsa.debian.org/atzlinux-guest
> GnuPG Public Key: 0x00186602339240CB


Hi Xiao and all,

I am not sure if this could be done automatically. Mentors uses the expo platform and that will take
some research and discussion to see what maybe could be done. We could create a wiki page with ready
packages for DD attention that could be forwarded in a mail to this list at a set interval. Maybe
more experienced DDs/Contributors to Mentors such as Andrey Rakhmatullin may have more insight than
I here.

Regards

Phil

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#112379

FromAndrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 07:40 +0200
Message-ID<IXsMV-oGe-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 07:41:25AM +0800, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  Support this become a weekly thing or a monthly thing.
> 
> Can mentors.debian.net sent package list to  debian-devel automatically?

The list of open RFSes is always available at
https://bugs.debian.org/sponsorship-requests



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#112416

FromBaptiste Beauplat <lyknode@debian.org>
Date2024-07-08 21:40 +0200
Message-ID<IY2nn-Kup-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
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Hi,

On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 07:41 +0800, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) wrote:
>   Support this become a weekly thing or a monthly thing.
> 
> Can mentors.debian.net sent package list to  debian-devel automatically?

It could. There is actually an issue for that[1], but no one has worked
on it yet.

Note that, there is also an api on mentors[2], that an external
provider could use that to craft and send those weekly reports
automatically.

Best,

[1]: https://salsa.debian.org/mentors.debian.net-team/debexpo/-/issues/42
[2]: https://mentors.debian.net/api/

-- 
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#112425

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-09 07:40 +0200
Message-ID<IYbK1-QeH-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Mon, 2024-07-08 at 21:30 +0200, Baptiste Beauplat wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 07:41 +0800, xiao sheng wen(肖盛文) wrote:
> >   Support this become a weekly thing or a monthly thing.
> > 
> > Can mentors.debian.net sent package list to  debian-devel automatically?
> 
> It could. There is actually an issue for that[1], but no one has worked
> on it yet.
> 
> Note that, there is also an api on mentors[2], that an external
> provider could use that to craft and send those weekly reports
> automatically.
> 
> Best,
> 
> [1]: https://salsa.debian.org/mentors.debian.net-team/debexpo/-/issues/42
> [2]: https://mentors.debian.net/api/
> 

Morning,

The API currently does not seem to expose the data to extract to create such a
report. When comment is done in the comment box for an upload, we have a
dropdown with:

* Not reviewed
* Needs work
* Ready

The above data does not seem to be stored. The up-loader also has the ability to
mark an their upload as ready. These would need to be addressed before any
viable report could be thought about.

Regards

Phil

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#112376

FromOtto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 02:50 +0200
Message-ID<IXogh-lir-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112371
Hi!

> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/

This is the same maintainer, I can take this on.

> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/

I have worked with this maintainer before, I can help him now too.


After this Hexwalk still needs a mentor.

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#112377

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-07 03:10 +0200
Message-ID<IXozD-lF4-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 2024-07-06 at 17:42 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> 
> This is the same maintainer, I can take this on.
> 
> > https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> 
> I have worked with this maintainer before, I can help him now too.
> 
> 
> After this Hexwalk still needs a mentor.

Hi Otto,

Many thanks for giving your time.

selint has been picked up by Pierre Gruet <pgt@debian.org> via the Request For Sponsorship (RFS)
bug[1], so I think that one is OK. The other two are happily yours. :-)

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592

Regards

Phil

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#112380

FromAndreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu>
Date2024-07-07 08:00 +0200
Message-ID<IXt6h-oMF-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112371
Hi Phil,

thanks for advertising Debian Mentors.

Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 02:45:33PM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> Hi all DD's
> 
> Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.

One thing I'm missing on mentors.d.n is that I it does not advertise
existing teams.  It happened from time to time that there was some
sponsoring request of Debian Science, Debian Med or Debian Python Team
related packages (surely others I did not notices).  Asking on the
relevant lists very easily helps getting the package in question
sponsored.  I have a personal sponsoring policy that I only sponsor from
a Git repository in a team I'm working in.  This has the advantage I can
easily help by pushing some commit with extensive comment to teach the
sponsee in some direct way.  Making a sponsee aware how to work together
with a team inside Debian is IMHO very important.

Thus I would welcome if there could be some explicit hint to mentees
to relevant teams.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

PS: Please do not understand my remark related to the packages below
    just a general remark fitting the subject.

> We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for sponsorship and we would request
> any DD who has the time and is willing, to have a look at one or more of the packages below and
> possibly sponsor them into Debian.
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
> 
> Mentor page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> 
> Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a time on the 'devel' list
> works, this could become a weekly thing.
> 
> [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil
> 
> -- 
> 
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> 
> Website: https://kathenas.org
> 
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> 
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#112382

FromAndrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 08:30 +0200
Message-ID<IXtzj-pbt-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 07:54:25AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> 
> thanks for advertising Debian Mentors.
> 
> Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 02:45:33PM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > Hi all DD's
> > 
> > Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> > sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.
> 
> One thing I'm missing on mentors.d.n is that I it does not advertise
> existing teams.  It happened from time to time that there was some
> sponsoring request of Debian Science, Debian Med or Debian Python Team
> related packages (surely others I did not notices).  Asking on the
> relevant lists very easily helps getting the package in question
> sponsored.  I have a personal sponsoring policy that I only sponsor from
> a Git repository in a team I'm working in.  This has the advantage I can
> easily help by pushing some commit with extensive comment to teach the
> sponsee in some direct way.  Making a sponsee aware how to work together
> with a team inside Debian is IMHO very important.
> 
> Thus I would welcome if there could be some explicit hint to mentees
> to relevant teams.

Note that "Offer your package directly to relevant teams and individual
developers." is sugested on https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/
and https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/

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#112384

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-07 09:20 +0200
Message-ID<IXulH-pGV-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 11:29 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 07:54:25AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Hi Phil,
> > 
> > thanks for advertising Debian Mentors.
> > 
> > Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 02:45:33PM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > > Hi all DD's
> > > 
> > > Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> > > sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.
> > 
> > One thing I'm missing on mentors.d.n is that I it does not advertise
> > existing teams.  It happened from time to time that there was some
> > sponsoring request of Debian Science, Debian Med or Debian Python Team
> > related packages (surely others I did not notices).  Asking on the
> > relevant lists very easily helps getting the package in question
> > sponsored.  I have a personal sponsoring policy that I only sponsor from
> > a Git repository in a team I'm working in.  This has the advantage I can
> > easily help by pushing some commit with extensive comment to teach the
> > sponsee in some direct way.  Making a sponsee aware how to work together
> > with a team inside Debian is IMHO very important.
> > 
> > Thus I would welcome if there could be some explicit hint to mentees
> > to relevant teams.
> 
> Note that "Offer your package directly to relevant teams and individual
> developers." is sugested on https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers/
> and https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/
> 

Andreas, Andrey and All,

Andrey has kindly offered links for relevant information here. Any additions or changes etc. of
course would be subject to discussion and consensus on the mentors mailing list.

Regards

Phil

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#112385

FromNilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 09:50 +0200
Message-ID<IXuOK-pQ2-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112380

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On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 07:54:25AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Am Sat, Jul 06, 2024 at 02:45:33PM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > Hi all DD's
> > 
> > Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for final reviewing and
> > sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the project.
> 
> One thing I'm missing on mentors.d.n is that I it does not advertise
> existing teams.  It happened from time to time that there was some
> sponsoring request of Debian Science, Debian Med or Debian Python Team
> related packages (surely others I did not notices).  Asking on the
> relevant lists very easily helps getting the package in question
> sponsored.  I have a personal sponsoring policy that I only sponsor from
> a Git repository in a team I'm working in.  This has the advantage I can
> easily help by pushing some commit with extensive comment to teach the
> sponsee in some direct way.  Making a sponsee aware how to work together
> with a team inside Debian is IMHO very important.

+1.

I wanted to sponsor at least 3 packages but backed off when I saw it is
impossible to push my changes to a common git repo to ease off the work.

I could go ahead with selint (on salsa) but to my surprise selinux team does not
have a request to join button on[1] - likely disabled on purpose.

[1]: https://salsa.debian.org/selinux-team

Best,
Nilesh

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#112388

Fromweepingclown <weepingclown@disroot.org>
Date2024-07-07 10:40 +0200
Message-ID<IXvB7-qpO-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112385
Hi Nilesh,

The 'request access' button is now available once clicked on the button with three dots on the top right, and on mobile this seems to be a "More actions" button instead of thw three dots one. IIRC this change has happened since before the last few gitlab version updates.

Best,
Ananthu

On 7 July 2024 7:47:39 am UTC, Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> wrote: 
>I could go ahead with selint (on salsa) but to my surprise selinux team does not
>have a request to join button on[1] - likely disabled on purpose.
>

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#112391

FromNilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 13:00 +0200
Message-ID<IXxMB-rDK-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 08:34:13AM +0000, weepingclown wrote:
> Hi Nilesh,
> 
> The 'request access' button is now available once clicked on the button with three dots on the top right, and on mobile this seems to be a "More actions" button instead of thw three dots one. IIRC this change has happened since before the last few gitlab version updates.

Ah, thanks weeping sir!
I have clicked on the request access button ever since I started contributing
and was unaware about this.

I've applied. Let's see if someone considers approving.

> Best,
> Ananthu
> 
> On 7 July 2024 7:47:39 am UTC, Nilesh Patra <nilesh@debian.org> wrote: 
> >I could go ahead with selint (on salsa) but to my surprise selinux team does not
> >have a request to join button on[1] - likely disabled on purpose.
> >
> 
Best,
Nilesh

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#112381

FromSoren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>
Date2024-07-07 08:20 +0200
Message-ID<IXtpD-p8r-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
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After reading a number of comments to the email below, I thought I would 
provide a bit of context for this email and Phil’s excellent work on Mentors.

Recently Phil has taken it upon himself to triage every package that requests 
sponsorship on mentors.debian.net.  Here is an example of the work he does:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00032.html

When he feels a package is ready for sponsorship, he indicates that with an 
email to the list.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00024.html

In some cases, nobody picks these up.  The email below was sent to debian-
devel with a curated list of packages that Phil has already reviewed and feels 
are ready for a DD to sponsor.

At any point, anyone can look at all of the packages on Mentors requesting a 
sponsor.

https://mentors.debian.net/

But I have found Phil’s work to be very helpful, as I have limited time to 
handle sponsorships.  When I look at a package Phil has endorsed, I can be 
sure that the simple and obvious things have already been taken care of.

I would heartily hope that Phil continues to send periodic emails to debian-
devel with lists of packages that he considers ready, but that are languishing 
on the vine because nobody has noticed them.  I would also encourage anyone 
else to get involved in this process if they feel so inclined.  I think that 
one of the most important aspects of attracting people to Debian is to make it 
easy for someone who is not yet a DD or DM to submit packages and have them be 
reviewed promptly.  There is probably nothing as demotivating to a first-time 
contributor as putting a lot of effort into a package, having it be in good 
shape, and then never having it be sponsored simply because it didn’t get 
noticed.

Soren

P.S.  Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my interactions with him, I have 
advocated for him to become a Debian Developer, uploading.  I think his 
contributions to Debian will be even more impactful when he can sponsor the 
packages he feels are ready.

https://nm.debian.org/process/1305/

On Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:45:33 AM MST Phil Wyett wrote:
> Hi all DD's
> 
> Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for
> final reviewing and sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the
> project.
> 
> We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for
> sponsorship and we would request any DD who has the time and is willing, to
> have a look at one or more of the packages below and possibly sponsor them
> into Debian.
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> 
> Mentors page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
> 
> Mentor page:
> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> 
> Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a
> time on the 'devel' list works, this could become a weekly thing.
> 
> [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phil


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#112383

FromXiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
Date2024-07-07 08:50 +0200
Message-ID<IXtSF-phZ-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112381
Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> writes:

> [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> After reading a number of comments to the email below, I thought I would 
> provide a bit of context for this email and Phil’s excellent work on Mentors.
>
> Recently Phil has taken it upon himself to triage every package that requests 
> sponsorship on mentors.debian.net.  Here is an example of the work he does:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00032.html
>
> When he feels a package is ready for sponsorship, he indicates that with an 
> email to the list.
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00024.html
>
> In some cases, nobody picks these up.  The email below was sent to debian-
> devel with a curated list of packages that Phil has already reviewed and feels 
> are ready for a DD to sponsor.
>
> At any point, anyone can look at all of the packages on Mentors requesting a 
> sponsor.
>
> https://mentors.debian.net/
>
> But I have found Phil’s work to be very helpful, as I have limited time to 
> handle sponsorships.  When I look at a package Phil has endorsed, I can be 
> sure that the simple and obvious things have already been taken care of.
>
> I would heartily hope that Phil continues to send periodic emails to debian-
> devel with lists of packages that he considers ready, but that are languishing 
> on the vine because nobody has noticed them.  I would also encourage anyone 
> else to get involved in this process if they feel so inclined.  I think that 
> one of the most important aspects of attracting people to Debian is to make it 
> easy for someone who is not yet a DD or DM to submit packages and have them be 
> reviewed promptly.  There is probably nothing as demotivating to a first-time 
> contributor as putting a lot of effort into a package, having it be in good 
> shape, and then never having it be sponsored simply because it didn’t get 
> noticed.
>
> Soren
>
> P.S.  Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my interactions with him, I have 
> advocated for him to become a Debian Developer, uploading.  I think his 
> contributions to Debian will be even more impactful when he can sponsor the 
> packages he feels are ready.
>
> https://nm.debian.org/process/1305/
>
> On Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:45:33 AM MST Phil Wyett wrote:
>> Hi all DD's
>> 
>> Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for
>> final reviewing and sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the
>> project.
>> 
>> We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for
>> sponsorship and we would request any DD who has the time and is willing, to
>> have a look at one or more of the packages below and possibly sponsor them
>> into Debian.
>> 
>> Mentors page:
>> https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
>> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
>> 
>> Mentors page:
>> https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
>> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
>> 
>> Mentors page:
>> https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
>> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
>> 
>> Mentors page:
>> https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
>> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
>> 
>> Mentor page:
>> https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
>> Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
>> 
>> Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a
>> time on the 'devel' list works, this could become a weekly thing.
>> 
>> [1] https://mentors.debian.net
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Phil

As one of those who received help from Phil who kindly helped review my
packages and finding potential sponsors, I want to take this opportunity
to thank Phil again for his kind works and Gianfranco for sponsoring
many of my packages.

With that said, I want to echo Soren's word that I believe what Phil and
Gianfranco has been doing is greatly helpful for new and potential
Debian Maintainers, and it would be great that this process can have
more people involved and get improved to make the review and sponsor
process smoother.

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#112386

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-07 09:50 +0200
Message-ID<IXuOK-pQ2-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sat, 2024-07-06 at 23:45 -0700, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]]
> > After reading a number of comments to the email below, I thought I would 
> > provide a bit of context for this email and Phil’s excellent work on Mentors.
> > 
> > Recently Phil has taken it upon himself to triage every package that requests 
> > sponsorship on mentors.debian.net.  Here is an example of the work he does:
> > 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00032.html
> > 
> > When he feels a package is ready for sponsorship, he indicates that with an 
> > email to the list.
> > 
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2024/07/msg00024.html
> > 
> > In some cases, nobody picks these up.  The email below was sent to debian-
> > devel with a curated list of packages that Phil has already reviewed and feels 
> > are ready for a DD to sponsor.
> > 
> > At any point, anyone can look at all of the packages on Mentors requesting a 
> > sponsor.
> > 
> > https://mentors.debian.net/
> > 
> > But I have found Phil’s work to be very helpful, as I have limited time to 
> > handle sponsorships.  When I look at a package Phil has endorsed, I can be 
> > sure that the simple and obvious things have already been taken care of.
> > 
> > I would heartily hope that Phil continues to send periodic emails to debian-
> > devel with lists of packages that he considers ready, but that are languishing 
> > on the vine because nobody has noticed them.  I would also encourage anyone 
> > else to get involved in this process if they feel so inclined.  I think that 
> > one of the most important aspects of attracting people to Debian is to make it 
> > easy for someone who is not yet a DD or DM to submit packages and have them be 
> > reviewed promptly.  There is probably nothing as demotivating to a first-time 
> > contributor as putting a lot of effort into a package, having it be in good 
> > shape, and then never having it be sponsored simply because it didn’t get 
> > noticed.
> > 
> > Soren
> > 
> > P.S.  Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my interactions with him, I have 
> > advocated for him to become a Debian Developer, uploading.  I think his 
> > contributions to Debian will be even more impactful when he can sponsor the 
> > packages he feels are ready.
> > 
> > https://nm.debian.org/process/1305/
> > 
> > On Saturday, July 6, 2024 6:45:33 AM MST Phil Wyett wrote:
> > > Hi all DD's
> > > 
> > > Debian Mentors[1] always struggles to find available Debian Developers for
> > > final reviewing and sponsoring of packages submitted too our part of the
> > > project.
> > > 
> > > We believe some packages are ready or very close to the quality for
> > > sponsorship and we would request any DD who has the time and is willing, to
> > > have a look at one or more of the packages below and possibly sponsor them
> > > into Debian.
> > > 
> > > Mentors page:
> > > https://mentors.debian.net/package/hexwalk/
> > > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1065008
> > > 
> > > Mentors page:
> > > https://mentors.debian.net/package/uriparser/
> > > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074542
> > > 
> > > Mentors page:
> > > https://mentors.debian.net/package/mailgraph/
> > > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074552
> > > 
> > > Mentors page:
> > > https://mentors.debian.net/package/dmidecode/
> > > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074553
> > > 
> > > Mentor page:
> > > https://mentors.debian.net/package/selint/
> > > Request For Sponsorship (RFS):
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074592
> > > 
> > > Your assistance will be extremely appreciated and if announcing a few at a
> > > time on the 'devel' list works, this could become a weekly thing.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://mentors.debian.net
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Phil
> 
> As one of those who received help from Phil who kindly helped review my
> packages and finding potential sponsors, I want to take this opportunity
> to thank Phil again for his kind works and Gianfranco for sponsoring
> many of my packages.
> 
> With that said, I want to echo Soren's word that I believe what Phil and
> Gianfranco has been doing is greatly helpful for new and potential
> Debian Maintainers, and it would be great that this process can have
> more people involved and get improved to make the review and sponsor
> process smoother.
> 

Morning Xiyue,

Thank you for the kind words. I agree whole heartedly with your comments that more people getting
involved to make for a better Debian mentors would be good. Debian mentors is a great place to be
around and we all learn something being involved.

Regards

Phil

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#112404

FromAndreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu>
Date2024-07-07 23:00 +0200
Message-ID<IXH9f-xg9-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112386
Hi Phil,

Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 08:48:22AM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> 
> Thank you for the kind words. I agree whole heartedly with your comments that more people getting
> involved to make for a better Debian mentors would be good. Debian mentors is a great place to be
> around and we all learn something being involved.

Thanks to you and all your work for mentors.d.n.   Just to clarify my
mail about connecting to teams (which is done as I learned in response):
I did by no means intended to lower the importance of mentors.d.n in
general for Debian and newcomers.

Thanks again
    Andreas.

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#112407

FromPhil Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2024-07-07 23:20 +0200
Message-ID<IXHsB-xCf-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#112404

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On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 22:51 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> 
> Am Sun, Jul 07, 2024 at 08:48:22AM +0100 schrieb Phil Wyett:
> > Thank you for the kind words. I agree whole heartedly with your comments that more people getting
> > involved to make for a better Debian mentors would be good. Debian mentors is a great place to be
> > around and we all learn something being involved.
> 
> Thanks to you and all your work for mentors.d.n.   Just to clarify my
> mail about connecting to teams (which is done as I learned in response):
> I did by no means intended to lower the importance of mentors.d.n in
> general for Debian and newcomers.
> 
> Thanks again
>     Andreas.
> 

Hi Andreas,

No need at all for your clarification. My words were generally meant to be an
ideal for what I feel that mentors should be and what people can gain from it.

Your comments regarding connecting teams are in my thoughts for how we can do
better in this direction. I did reach out to the python team a little while ago
to find sponsors for a few python packages that had been languishing on mentors.
This turned into a discussion if the python team can approach sponsoring in a
different way and the ruby team was put forward, who have a very good procedures
for sponsoring.

I am not yet ready to let these thoughts out as yet until they are fully formed
and be best put forward to contributors to mentors etc.

Regards

Phil

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