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| Started by | Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> |
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| First post | 2021-01-17 06:20 +0100 |
| Last post | 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100 |
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testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 06:20 +0100
Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2021-01-17 11:40 +0100
Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 12:50 +0100
Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
| From | Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-17 06:20 +0100 |
| Subject | testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop |
| Message-ID | <By8DM-3wo-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
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Hi, Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not installing gnome-remote-desktop by default. As we know, vino does not work with wayland and is not being actively developed and focus has shifted to the wayland ready gnome-remote- desktop. Could we pre bullseye general availability (GA), rectify this issue and have gnome-remote-desktop as the default installed? Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B
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| From | Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-17 11:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <BydDs-6BO-15@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1209 |
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the
> default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
> installing gnome-remote-desktop by default.
The version of meta-gnome3 in GNOME team git Suggests gnome-remote-desktop
and does not have a dependency relationship with vino, although nobody
has got round to uploading this change yet.
If you are interested in remote desktop support, your help with testing
and if necessary backporting gnome-remote-desktop changes would be welcome
(we have the latest upstream release, but there have been various commits
upstream since then, and I don't have a good picture of which if any are
important). At the moment it's only a Suggests for the gnome metapackage,
because I'm not sure how mature it is.
The Pipewire-based/Wayland-compatible stack does support other
implementations of remote desktop viewing/control: if web browsers are
linked to Pipewire client libraries, then web APIs can provide desktop
sharing, for example on videoconferencing platforms.
I've been sporadically uploading Pipewire because nobody else was doing it,
but I am absolutely not an expert on Pipewire, and I would be delighted for
someone else to take over.
smcv
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| From | Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-17 12:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop |
| Message-ID | <ByeJb-7eL-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1210 |
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On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 10:31 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote: > > Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, > > the > > default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not > > installing gnome-remote-desktop by default. > > The version of meta-gnome3 in GNOME team git Suggests gnome-remote- > desktop > and does not have a dependency relationship with vino, although > nobody > has got round to uploading this change yet. > > If you are interested in remote desktop support, your help with > testing > and if necessary backporting gnome-remote-desktop changes would be > welcome > (we have the latest upstream release, but there have been various > commits > upstream since then, and I don't have a good picture of which if any > are > important). At the moment it's only a Suggests for the gnome > metapackage, > because I'm not sure how mature it is. > > The Pipewire-based/Wayland-compatible stack does support other > implementations of remote desktop viewing/control: if web browsers > are > linked to Pipewire client libraries, then web APIs can provide > desktop > sharing, for example on videoconferencing platforms. > > I've been sporadically uploading Pipewire because nobody else was > doing it, > but I am absolutely not an expert on Pipewire, and I would be > delighted for > someone else to take over. > > smcv Hi Simon, I am no Pipewire expert like you and some of the remote connectivity technologies that are available for use. However, I am happy to add gnome-remote-desktop to my watch packages for testing and helping out where I am able. I will look at upstream in due course and work with any other like minded individuals on this be that in the GNOME and remote teams. Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B
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| From | Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ByfOY-7RZ-47@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1211 |
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> I am no Pipewire expert like you
Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive-by
uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwidth to be
responsible for Pipewire and you'll notice I have deliberately not added
myself to its Uploaders.
Sorry,
smcv
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| From | Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop |
| Message-ID | <ByfOY-7RZ-45@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1212 |
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On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 12:53 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote: > > I am no Pipewire expert like you > > Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive- > by > uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwidth to > be > responsible for Pipewire and you'll notice I have deliberately not > added > myself to its Uploaders. > > Sorry, > smcv Sorry, should have expanded that sentence. I am no Pipewire expert like you declare yourself not to be one. :-) Regards Phil -- *** Playing the game for the games own sake. *** WWW: https://kathenas.org Twitter: @kathenasorg IRC: kathenas GPG: 724AA9B52F024C8B
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