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testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop

Started byPhilip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
First post2021-01-17 06:20 +0100
Last post2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
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  testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be  installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 06:20 +0100
    Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be  installing gnome-remote-desktop Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2021-01-17 11:40 +0100
      Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should  be installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 12:50 +0100
        Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be  installing gnome-remote-desktop Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
          Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should  be installing gnome-remote-desktop Philip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org> - 2021-01-17 14:00 +0100

#1209 — testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop

FromPhilip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2021-01-17 06:20 +0100
Subjecttesting/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop
Message-ID<By8DM-3wo-1@gated-at.bofh.it>

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Hi,

Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the
default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
installing gnome-remote-desktop by default.

As we know, vino does not work with wayland and is not being actively
developed and focus has shifted to the wayland ready gnome-remote-
desktop.

Could we pre bullseye general availability (GA), rectify this issue and
have gnome-remote-desktop as the default installed?

Regards

Phil

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#1210

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2021-01-17 11:40 +0100
Message-ID<BydDs-6BO-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1209
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3, the
> default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
> installing gnome-remote-desktop by default.

The version of meta-gnome3 in GNOME team git Suggests gnome-remote-desktop
and does not have a dependency relationship with vino, although nobody
has got round to uploading this change yet.

If you are interested in remote desktop support, your help with testing
and if necessary backporting gnome-remote-desktop changes would be welcome
(we have the latest upstream release, but there have been various commits
upstream since then, and I don't have a good picture of which if any are
important). At the moment it's only a Suggests for the gnome metapackage,
because I'm not sure how mature it is.

The Pipewire-based/Wayland-compatible stack does support other
implementations of remote desktop viewing/control: if web browsers are
linked to Pipewire client libraries, then web APIs can provide desktop
sharing, for example on videoconferencing platforms.

I've been sporadically uploading Pipewire because nobody else was doing it,
but I am absolutely not an expert on Pipewire, and I would be delighted for
someone else to take over.

    smcv

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#1211 — Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop

FromPhilip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2021-01-17 12:50 +0100
SubjectRe: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop
Message-ID<ByeJb-7eL-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
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On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 10:31 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 05:01:30 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> > Installing Debian testing and now also using bullseye-DI-alpha3,
> > the
> > default desktop install/gnome is still installing vino and not
> > installing gnome-remote-desktop by default.
> 
> The version of meta-gnome3 in GNOME team git Suggests gnome-remote-
> desktop
> and does not have a dependency relationship with vino, although
> nobody
> has got round to uploading this change yet.
> 
> If you are interested in remote desktop support, your help with
> testing
> and if necessary backporting gnome-remote-desktop changes would be
> welcome
> (we have the latest upstream release, but there have been various
> commits
> upstream since then, and I don't have a good picture of which if any
> are
> important). At the moment it's only a Suggests for the gnome
> metapackage,
> because I'm not sure how mature it is.
> 
> The Pipewire-based/Wayland-compatible stack does support other
> implementations of remote desktop viewing/control: if web browsers
> are
> linked to Pipewire client libraries, then web APIs can provide
> desktop
> sharing, for example on videoconferencing platforms.
> 
> I've been sporadically uploading Pipewire because nobody else was
> doing it,
> but I am absolutely not an expert on Pipewire, and I would be
> delighted for
> someone else to take over.
> 
>     smcv


Hi Simon,

I am no Pipewire expert like you and some of the remote connectivity
technologies that are available for use. However, I am happy to add
gnome-remote-desktop to my watch packages for testing and helping out
where I am able. I will look at upstream in due course and work with
any other like minded individuals on this be that in the GNOME and
remote teams.

Regards

Phil

-- 
*** Playing the game for the games own sake. ***

WWW: https://kathenas.org

Twitter: @kathenasorg

IRC: kathenas

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#1212

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
Message-ID<ByfOY-7RZ-47@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1211
On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> I am no Pipewire expert like you

Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive-by
uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwidth to be
responsible for Pipewire and you'll notice I have deliberately not added
myself to its Uploaders.

Sorry,
    smcv

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#1213 — Re: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop

FromPhilip Wyett <philip.wyett@kathenas.org>
Date2021-01-17 14:00 +0100
SubjectRe: testing/bullseye: Still installing vino when we really should be installing gnome-remote-desktop
Message-ID<ByfOY-7RZ-45@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1212

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On Sun, 2021-01-17 at 12:53 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 11:49:00 +0000, Philip Wyett wrote:
> > I am no Pipewire expert like you
> 
> Please don't mistake me for a Pipewire expert! I'm only doing drive-
> by
> uploads because we need it for GNOME. I do not have the bandwidth to
> be
> responsible for Pipewire and you'll notice I have deliberately not
> added
> myself to its Uploaders.
> 
> Sorry,
>     smcv

Sorry, should have expanded that sentence. I am no Pipewire expert like
you declare yourself not to be one. :-)

Regards

Phil

-- 
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WWW: https://kathenas.org

Twitter: @kathenasorg

IRC: kathenas

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