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Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian?

Started byJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
First post2025-03-15 22:10 +0100
Last post2025-04-11 17:20 +0200
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  Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian? Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2025-03-15 22:10 +0100
    Bug#1100598: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
      Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
    Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
    Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? "Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org> - 2025-04-11 17:20 +0200

#386920 — Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian?

FromJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
Date2025-03-15 22:10 +0100
SubjectBug#1100597: opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian?
Message-ID<KqGVz-6kpw-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
Source: opencl-clang-17
Version: 17.0.1-1
Severity: serious
X-Debbugs-CC: anbe@debian.org
Control: block 1081250 by -1

llvm-defaults says that the default llvm-toolchain for Trixie is
llvm-toolchain-19. The Debian Release Team strongly prefers that there
be as few llvm-toolchain versions in Debian as possible.

opencl-clang-17 uses llvm-toolchain-17 while opencl-clang-19 uses
llvm-toolchain-19.

opencl-clang-17 has no reverse dependencies in Debian; therefore,
shouldn't it be removed now?

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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#389207 — Bug#1100598: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

FromAdrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org>
Date2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
SubjectBug#1100598: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?
Message-ID<KAoaZ-cMax-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#386920
Control: tags -1 forky

On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 05:00:21PM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
>...
> llvm-defaults says that the default llvm-toolchain for Trixie is
> llvm-toolchain-19. The Debian Release Team strongly prefers that there
> be as few llvm-toolchain versions in Debian as possible.
> 
> opencl-clang-17 uses llvm-toolchain-17 while opencl-clang-19 uses
> llvm-toolchain-19.
> 
> opencl-clang-17 has no reverse dependencies in Debian; therefore,
> shouldn't it be removed now?

On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 05:00:25PM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
>...
> opencl-clang-18 has no reverse dependencies in Debian; therefore,
> shouldn't it be removed now?
>...

What is the benefit of removing random leaf packages when the stated 
goal is impossible?

While it is true that the release team prefers to have as few 
llvm-toolchain versions in a release as possible, you are far
too late for that unless the freeze gets postponed.

Both llvm-toolchain-17 and llvm-toolchain-18 are key packages,
changing that would be the starting point.

Open MPI and two gcc versions are among the packages that keep 
llvm-toolchain-17 in trixie.

If the release team wanted to remove llvm-toolchain-18 from trixie,
the main work would be to transition ghc to a different LLVM version.

As soon an older LLVM version is no longer a key packages, autoremovals 
would automaticlly remove leaf packages like opencl-clang-* together 
with this LLVM version.

> Thank you,
> Jeremy Bícha

cu
Adrian

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#389210 — Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

From"Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org>
Date2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
SubjectProcessed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?
Message-ID<KAoaZ-cMax-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#389207
Processing control commands:

> tags -1 forky
Bug #1100598 [src:opencl-clang-18] opencl-clang-18: remove from Debian?
Added tag(s) forky.

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1100598: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1100598
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#389208 — Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

From"Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org>
Date2025-04-11 17:10 +0200
SubjectProcessed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?
Message-ID<KAoaZ-cMax-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#386920
Processing control commands:

> tags -1 forky
Bug #1100597 [src:opencl-clang-17] opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian?
Added tag(s) forky.

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1100597: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1100597
Debian Bug Tracking System
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#389215 — Processed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

From"Debian Bug Tracking System" <owner@bugs.debian.org>
Date2025-04-11 17:20 +0200
SubjectProcessed: Re: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?
Message-ID<KAokF-cMev-19@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#386920
Processing control commands:

> severity -1 important
Bug #1100597 [src:opencl-clang-17] opencl-clang-17: remove from Debian?
Severity set to 'important' from 'serious'

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1100597: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1100597
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