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| Started by | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| First post | 2026-01-14 13:20 +0100 |
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Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-14 13:20 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2026-01-14 13:50 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-14 14:20 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-14 14:20 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-15 04:10 +0100
Bug#1125474: libxm4: missing call to FcInit() when using Fontconfig Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-15 11:00 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2026-01-15 11:20 +0100
Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2026-01-15 11:50 +0100
| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-14 13:20 +0100 |
| Subject | Bug#1125474: xpdf: Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() |
| Message-ID | <Md80W-au0j-13@gated-at.bofh.it> |
Package: xpdf Version: 3.04+git20250304-1+b1 Severity: normal With fontconfig 2.17.1-3, I now get the following warning when running xpdf (even without any argument): Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() Other PDF viewers (atril, qpdfview, zathura) do not have such an issue. -- System Information: Debian Release: forky/sid APT prefers unstable-debug APT policy: (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500, 'stable-debug'), (500, 'proposed-updates-debug'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 6.18.3+deb14-amd64 (SMP w/16 CPU threads; PREEMPT) Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages xpdf depends on: ii libc6 2.42-7 ii libgcc-s1 15.2.0-12 ii libpaper2 2.2.5-0.3+b3 ii libpoppler147 25.03.0-11.1+b1 ii libstdc++6 15.2.0-12 ii libx11-6 2:1.8.12-1 ii libxm4 2.3.8-5 ii libxt6t64 1:1.2.1-1.3 Versions of packages xpdf recommends: ii cups-bsd 2.4.16-1 ii fonts-urw-base35 20200910-8 ii poppler-data 0.4.12-1 ii poppler-utils 25.03.0-11.1+b1 ii sensible-utils 0.0.26 xpdf suggests no packages. -- no debconf information -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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| From | Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> |
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| Date | 2026-01-14 13:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Md8tX-au9P-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278347 |
Hi Vincent, On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 01:13:50PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > With fontconfig 2.17.1-3, I now get the following warning when > running xpdf (even without any argument): > Fontconfig warning: using without calling FcInit() We just found the relevant fontconfig bug at the same time - your comment popped up there while I was reading it! https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/472 It's not a bug in xpopple as we don't use fontconfig directly there; it'll be indirect through Poppler and Motif. But I'm more inclined to think of this as a regression in fontconfig, since it's never required explicit FcInit/FcFini calls in the past, and they can't be added to libraries because previous releases of fontconfig don't do reference counting, so multiple calls to FcFini would cause breakage. Thanks, -- Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> <http://offog.org/>
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| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-14 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Md8WZ-auBN-1@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278348 |
Hi Adam, On 2026-01-14 12:43:48 +0000, Adam Sampson wrote: > It's not a bug in xpopple as we don't use fontconfig directly there; > it'll be indirect through Poppler and Motif. There are other PDF viewers that are based on Poppler and such a warning is not output. Perhaps FcInit is called in Poppler and the xpdf issue comes from Motif (since it comes first). > But I'm more inclined to think of this as a regression in > fontconfig, since it's never required explicit FcInit/FcFini calls > in the past, and they can't be added to libraries because previous > releases of fontconfig don't do reference counting, If a call to FcInit wasn't required, that's an API change and an ABI breakage in fontconfig. > so multiple calls to FcFini would cause breakage. That's something that they would have to solve. If I understand correctly, the new fontconfig version was not ready yet for Debian, and it would also require a soname bump (when ready). -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-14 14:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Md8X0-auBN-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278349 |
On 2026-01-14 14:11:11 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2026-01-14 12:43:48 +0000, Adam Sampson wrote: > > so multiple calls to FcFini would cause breakage. > > That's something that they would have to solve. This is apparently incorrect about FcFini: according to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/448 this was fixed in May 2025. -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 04:10 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MdlUd-aDci-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278349 |
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Control: reassign -1 libxm4 2.3.8-5 Control: retitle -1 libxm4: missing call to FcInit() when using Fontconfig Control: severity -1 important Control: affects -1 xpdf Summary: Before some use of Fontconfig, Motif needs to call FcInit(). This has always been required, but without any consequence until now. With libfontconfig1 2.17.1-3, which is now in unstable, one gets a warning on stderr. It is bad for a library to send debug messages to stderr, but... This just announces more important changes in future versions of Fontconfig, which would mean a breakage in case of such a missing call to FcInit(). So this bug must be fixed ASAP. On 2026-01-14 14:11:11 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Hi Adam, > > On 2026-01-14 12:43:48 +0000, Adam Sampson wrote: > > It's not a bug in xpopple as we don't use fontconfig directly there; > > it'll be indirect through Poppler and Motif. > > There are other PDF viewers that are based on Poppler and such > a warning is not output. Perhaps FcInit is called in Poppler > and the xpdf issue comes from Motif (since it comes first). I've added an abort() after the warning in Fontconfig, and I confirm that this is obtained via Motif. I've attached the backtrace. This happens via the ValidateAndLoadFont call: [...] #6 0x00007f172b316b89 in FcObjectFromName (name=name@entry=0x7f172b051b24 "encoding") at ./src/fcname.c:110 No locals. #7 0x00007f172b319888 in IA__FcPatternAddString (p=0x55bb07356dc0, object=object@entry=0x7f172b051b24 "encoding", s=0x55bb0731f41 0 "iso10646-1") at ./src/fcpat.c:825 No locals. #8 0x00007f172afa4b23 in ValidateAndLoadFont (rend=rend@entry=0x55bb07356d50, display=<optimized out>, display@entry=0x55bb07308550) at ./lib/Xm/XmRenderT.c:2107 [...] and this function is defined in "lib/Xm/XmRenderT.c", and if I understand corretly, this is "case XmFONT_IS_XFT:". -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 11:00 +0100 |
| Subject | Bug#1125474: libxm4: missing call to FcInit() when using Fontconfig |
| Message-ID | <MdsiZ-aHcS-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278424 |
On 2026-01-15 03:58:52 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> I've added an abort() after the warning in Fontconfig, and I confirm
> that this is obtained via Motif. I've attached the backtrace.
>
> This happens via the ValidateAndLoadFont call:
>
> [...]
> #6 0x00007f172b316b89 in FcObjectFromName (name=name@entry=0x7f172b051b24 "encoding") at ./src/fcname.c:110
> No locals.
> #7 0x00007f172b319888 in IA__FcPatternAddString (p=0x55bb07356dc0, object=object@entry=0x7f172b051b24 "encoding", s=0x55bb0731f41
> 0 "iso10646-1") at ./src/fcpat.c:825
> No locals.
> #8 0x00007f172afa4b23 in ValidateAndLoadFont (rend=rend@entry=0x55bb07356d50, display=<optimized out>, display@entry=0x55bb07308550) at ./lib/Xm/XmRenderT.c:2107
> [...]
>
> and this function is defined in "lib/Xm/XmRenderT.c", and if
> I understand corretly, this is "case XmFONT_IS_XFT:".
The code in ValidateAndLoadFont() is the following:
[...]
_XmRendPattern(rend) = FcPatternCreate();
if (_XmRendFontName(rend))
FcPatternAddString(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_FAMILY,
(XftChar8 *)_XmRendFontName(rend));
if (_XmRendFontFoundry(rend))
FcPatternAddString(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_FOUNDRY,
(XftChar8 *)_XmRendFontFoundry(rend));
if (_XmRendFontEncoding(rend))
FcPatternAddString(_XmRendPattern(rend), XFT_ENCODING,
(XftChar8 *)_XmRendFontEncoding(rend));
if (_XmRendFontStyle(rend))
FcPatternAddString(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_STYLE,
(XftChar8 *)_XmRendFontStyle(rend));
if (_XmRendFontSize(rend))
FcPatternAddInteger(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_SIZE,
_XmRendFontSize(rend));
if (_XmRendPixelSize(rend))
FcPatternAddInteger(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_PIXEL_SIZE,
_XmRendPixelSize(rend));
if (_XmRendFontSlant(rend))
FcPatternAddInteger(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_SLANT,
_XmRendFontSlant(rend));
if (_XmRendFontWeight(rend))
FcPatternAddInteger(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_WEIGHT,
_XmRendFontWeight(rend));
if (_XmRendFontSpacing(rend))
FcPatternAddInteger(_XmRendPattern(rend), FC_SPACING,
_XmRendFontSpacing(rend));
p = XftFontMatch(display, 0, _XmRendPattern(rend), &res);
[...]
It is the FcPatternAddString() call with XFT_ENCODING that triggers
the warning on my machine.
Note that XftFontMatch() will internally call XftInit(), which will
call FcInit(), but this occurs after the above FcPatternAddString()
call.
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Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/>
100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/>
Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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| From | Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 11:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <MdsCm-aHAe-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278424 |
Hi Vincent On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 at 02:10, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote: > Summary: Before some use of Fontconfig, Motif needs to call FcInit(). > This has always been required, but without any consequence until now. Do you have a reference for this? (that is has always been required) > With libfontconfig1 2.17.1-3, which is now in unstable, one gets a > warning on stderr. You could file a bug against fontconfig 2.17.1-3 to prevent it from migrating to testing for now. Other packages might also be affected. Regards Graham
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| From | Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 11:50 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <Mdt5o-aHKx-7@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| In reply to | #1278449 |
Hi Graham, On 2026-01-15 09:10:52 -0100, Graham Inggs wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jan 2026 at 02:10, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote: > > Summary: Before some use of Fontconfig, Motif needs to call FcInit(). > > This has always been required, but without any consequence until now. > > Do you have a reference for this? (that is has always been required) https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/472 (it was given by Adam Sampsonin an earlier message). I'm currently discussing there about this issue with the developer Akira Tagoh. > > With libfontconfig1 2.17.1-3, which is now in unstable, one gets a > > warning on stderr. > > You could file a bug against fontconfig 2.17.1-3 to prevent it from > migrating to testing for now. Other packages might also be affected. I've done testing with various applications, including gucharmap and gnuplot, for which one can see complaints about this warning on the web (several months ago), but I cannot see a warning with them. For gnuplot, the user made the warning disappear by recompiling the cairo library: https://sourceforge.net/p/gnuplot/bugs/2817/ So I suspect that there were such bugs in other software, but they have been fixed in the mean time. For GTK3, this has been fixed: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/7639 Ditto for Firefox: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1974722 Concerning xpdf and Motif, I suppose that there hasn't been a report before because they are little used. -- Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.net> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
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