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Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName

Started byDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
First post2025-07-10 19:50 +0200
Last post2025-07-12 17:00 +0200
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  Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-10 19:50 +0200
    Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2025-07-10 20:10 +0200
      Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-11 13:50 +0200
        Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2025-07-11 14:10 +0200
    Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2025-07-11 16:20 +0200
      Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-11 16:30 +0200
        Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2025-07-11 18:30 +0200
          Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-11 19:10 +0200
            Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-11 19:20 +0200
            Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-07-11 19:20 +0200
          Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 Daniel <tech@tootai.net> - 2025-07-18 11:40 +0200
            Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-07-18 14:30 +0200
    Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2 NoisyCoil <noisycoil@tutanota.com> - 2025-07-12 17:00 +0200

#1252344 — Bug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-10 19:50 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: xdg-desktop-portal: Failed to create secret proxy for StartServiceByName
Message-ID<L73zb-gEDg-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
Package: xdg-desktop-portal
Version: 1.20.3+ds-1
Severity: important

juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé
juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: No skeleton to export
juil. 10 18:39:30 apple /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session[286294]: discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 18:39:30 apple /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session[285777]: dbus-daemon[285777]: [session uid=114 pid=285777 pidfd=5] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop'
juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-de[16112]: [DaemonSystem] Aborting handover, removing remote client with remote id /org/gnome/RemoteDesktop/Client/972001666
juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: [18:39:34:766] [16112:00003ef0] [ERROR][com.freerdp.core.peer] - [rdp_set_error_info]: ERRINFO_CB_CONNECTION_CANCELLED [0x00010409]
juil. 10 18:39:35 apple systemd[1]: systemd-localed.service: Deactivated successfully.
juil. 10 18:39:35 apple systemd[1]: systemd-hostnamed.service: Deactivated successfully.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 13.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: arm64 (aarch64)

Kernel: Linux 6.14.6-asahi (SMP w/8 CPU threads)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages xdg-desktop-portal depends on:
ii  bubblewrap                                    0.11.0-2
ii  dbus-user-session [default-dbus-session-bus]  1.16.2-2
ii  fuse3                                         3.17.2-2
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base                     1.26.2-1
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good                     1.26.2-1
ii  init-system-helpers                           1.68
ii  libc6                                         2.41-9
ii  libfuse3-4                                    3.17.2-2
ii  libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0                           2.42.12+dfsg-3
ii  libglib2.0-0t64                               2.84.3-1
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0                1.26.2-1
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0                             1.26.2-2
ii  libgudev-1.0-0                                238-6
ii  libjson-glib-1.0-0                            1.10.6+ds-2
ii  libpipewire-0.3-0t64                          1.4.2-1
ii  libsystemd0                                   257.7-1

Versions of packages xdg-desktop-portal recommends:
ii  librsvg2-common  2.60.0+dfsg-1

xdg-desktop-portal suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

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#1252346

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2025-07-10 20:10 +0200
Message-ID<L73Sx-gF0a-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252344
Control: tags -1 + moreinfo

On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 19:26:47 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
>juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé

x-d-p tried to contact your implementation of the 
org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface (normally gnome-keyring or 
KWallet), but didn't receive a reply to that request. x-d-p cannot solve 
this: it will need to be fixed in either the implementation of 
org.freedesktop.secrets, or some sort of desktop session infrastructure 
around it.

What implementation of org.freedesktop.secrets did you expect it to be 
using? This bug should be reassigned to whatever that implementation is.

Please describe the desktop environment you are using and how it is set 
up, and please check the systemd Journal for messages regarding startup 
of org.freedesktop.secrets, gnome-keyring or KWallet. They are likely to 
appear in the period between 18:38:00 and 18:39:30 (perhaps earlier than 
the part you quoted).

     smcv

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#1252417

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-11 13:50 +0200
Message-ID<L7kql-gPxO-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252346
Le 10/07/2025 à 19:58, Simon McVittie a écrit :
> Control: tags -1 + moreinfo
>
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 19:26:47 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>> juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>> [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - 
>> [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
>> juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create 
>> secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour 
>> org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé
>
> x-d-p tried to contact your implementation of the 
> org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface (normally gnome-keyring or 
> KWallet), but didn't receive a reply to that request. x-d-p cannot 
> solve this: it will need to be fixed in either the implementation of 
> org.freedesktop.secrets, or some sort of desktop session 
> infrastructure around it.
>
> What implementation of org.freedesktop.secrets did you expect it to be 
> using? This bug should be reassigned to whatever that implementation is.

gnome-keyring

dh@apple ~ $ ls -l /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8877 20 mars  15:18 
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8341 20 mars  15:18 
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6825 20 mars  15:18 
/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop

>
> Please describe the desktop environment you are using and how it is set up

gnome+wayland aside of cinnamon

apt install task-gnome-desktop

> , and please check the systemd Journal for messages regarding startup 
> of org.freedesktop.secrets, gnome-keyring or KWallet. They are likely 
> to appear in the period between 18:38:00 and 18:39:30 (perhaps earlier 
> than the part you quoted).

journalctl | grep gnome-keyring

juil. 10 17:41:26 apple systemd[2924]: Listening on 
gnome-keyring-daemon.socket - GNOME Keyring daemon.
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple systemd[2924]: Started 
gnome-keyring-daemon.service - GNOME Keyring daemon.
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[2975]: 
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/1000/keyring
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[2975]: The Secret Service 
was already initialized
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[3115]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop[3115]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/1000/keyring
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-d[2975]: The Secret Service was 
already initialized
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[2975]: The PKCS#11 
component was already initialized
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-d[2975]: The PKCS#11 component was 
already initialized
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[3117]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop[3117]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/1000/keyring
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[3119]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop[3119]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/1000/keyring
juil. 10 17:41:26 apple gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop[3119]: 
SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
juil. 10 17:46:53 apple systemd[31544]: Listening on 
gnome-keyring-daemon.socket - GNOME Keyring daemon.
juil. 10 17:46:54 apple systemd[31544]: Started 
gnome-keyring-daemon.service - GNOME Keyring daemon.
juil. 10 17:46:54 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[32163]: 
GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/run/user/114/keyring
juil. 10 17:46:54 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[32163]: The Secret Service 
was already initialized
juil. 10 17:46:54 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[32162]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 17:46:54 apple gnome-keyring-d[32163]: The Secret Service was 
already initialized
juil. 10 17:51:54 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[32163]: The Secret Service 
was already initialized
juil. 10 17:51:54 apple gnome-keyring-d[32163]: The Secret Service was 
already initialized
juil. 10 17:51:54 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[57216]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 18:39:05 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[32163]: The Secret Service 
was already initialized
juil. 10 18:39:05 apple gnome-keyring-daemon[286294]: 
discover_other_daemon: 1
juil. 10 18:39:05 apple gnome-keyring-d[32163]: The Secret Service was 
already initialized

journalctl |grep org.freedesktop.secrets

When I run systemctl --user --all I don't see any 
org.freedesktop.secrets, seems normal as it should be activated by dbus

Thanks for taking care to this problem

-- 
Daniel

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#1252418

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2025-07-11 14:10 +0200
Message-ID<L7kJH-gPUH-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252417
Control: reassign -1 gnome-keyring

On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 13:30:54 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>Le 10/07/2025 à 19:58, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>Control: tags -1 + moreinfo
>>
>>On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 19:26:47 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>>juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>>>[18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - 
>>>[WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
>>>juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create 
>>>secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour 
>>>org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé
>>
>>x-d-p tried to contact your implementation of the 
>>org.freedesktop.secrets D-Bus interface (normally gnome-keyring or 
>>KWallet), but didn't receive a reply to that request. x-d-p cannot 
>>solve this: it will need to be fixed in either the implementation of 
>>org.freedesktop.secrets, or some sort of desktop session 
>>infrastructure around it.
>>
>>What implementation of org.freedesktop.secrets did you expect it to 
>>be using? This bug should be reassigned to whatever that 
>>implementation is.
>
>gnome-keyring

Reassigning to gnome-keyring for further investigation, then.

>>Please describe the desktop environment you are using and how it is set up
>
>gnome+wayland aside of cinnamon

What does "gnome+wayland aside of cinnamon" mean? Do you mean that you 
have both GNOME and Cinnamon installed, and you are logging in to a 
GNOME (Wayland) session?

Please describe the system in sufficient detail that a developer would 
be able to set up an equivalent system themselves.

>>, and please check the systemd Journal for messages regarding 
>>startup of org.freedesktop.secrets, gnome-keyring or KWallet. They 
>>are likely to appear in the period between 18:38:00 and 18:39:30 
>>(perhaps earlier than the part you quoted).
>
>journalctl | grep gnome-keyring

grep for gnome-keyring is not sufficient, there could be other relevant 
messages related to it that do not contain the word "gnome-keyring".

We will need to see all messages from systemd and/or dbus-daemon that 
relate to GNOME Keyring - those messages might not mention the word 
"gnome-keyring", they might describe it as "GNOME Keyring" or "Secret 
Service" or some other term. Please quote the whole section of the 
Journal while the system is trying to start gnome-keyring for you. You 
can censor messages that contain private information or are clearly 
irrelevant, but please indicate where you have done so.

If you are not in the adm group, you will need to run journalctl as 
root to be able to see everything.

     smcv

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#1252432

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2025-07-11 16:20 +0200
Message-ID<L7mLv-gRaK-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252344
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 19:26:47 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé

What I should have asked at the beginning is:

Is there a user-visible symptom that you are reporting, like some 
program crashing or taking a long time to start, that is in some way 
related to the warning you have quoted?

Or can your bug report be summarized as "there is a warning in the 
system log, and I don't think there should be any warnings at all"?

>juil. 10 18:39:30 apple /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session[285777]: dbus-daemon[285777]: [session uid=114 pid=285777 pidfd=5] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop'

This is the special mini-session that is used for the gdm "greeter" 
(login prompt), not part of a user's login session. It is normal that 
this mini-session has limited functionality, and I would not expect 
either gnome-keyring or xdg-desktop-portal to be usefully active in that 
session.

(Perhaps that session should prevent these services from running at all.)

     smcv

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#1252436

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-11 16:30 +0200
Message-ID<L7mVb-gRf0-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252432
Le 11/07/2025 à 16:11, Simon McVittie a écrit :
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 at 19:26:47 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>> juil. 10 18:39:30 apple xdg-desktop-por[286207]: Failed to create 
>> secret proxy: Erreur lors de l’appel de StartServiceByName pour 
>> org.freedesktop.secrets : Le délai d’attente est dépassé
>
> What I should have asked at the beginning is:
>
> Is there a user-visible symptom that you are reporting, like some 
> program crashing or taking a long time to start, that is in some way 
> related to the warning you have quoted?
>
> Or can your bug report be summarized as "there is a warning in the 
> system log, and I don't think there should be any warnings at all"?
That's the logs I get when I try to connect to gnome-remote-desktop. On 
the client I'm asked to enter user, password and domain, once done I get 
a blank screen and those logs appear on the server. Client software was 
gnome-connections or remmina an MBA M1 running as well Asahi Linux, same 
result with remmina from a 22.04 Ubuntu client.
>
>> juil. 10 18:39:30 apple /usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session[285777]: 
>> dbus-daemon[285777]: [session uid=114 pid=285777 pidfd=5] 
>> Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop'
>
> This is the special mini-session that is used for the gdm "greeter" 
> (login prompt), not part of a user's login session. It is normal that 
> this mini-session has limited functionality, and I would not expect 
> either gnome-keyring or xdg-desktop-portal to be usefully active in 
> that session.
>
> (Perhaps that session should prevent these services from running at all.)
As user I'm UID 1000 connected to the GUI and 114 is the one from 
gdm-wayland-session

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#1252445 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromSimon McVittie <smcv@debian.org>
Date2025-07-11 18:30 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L7oNj-gSpF-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252436
Control: retitle -1 gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Control: reassign -1 gnome-remote-desktop
Control: affects -1 + asahi-platform
Control: severity -1 normal

On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 16:22:49 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>Le 11/07/2025 à 16:11, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>What I should have asked at the beginning is:
>>
>>Is there a user-visible symptom that you are reporting, like some 
>>program crashing or taking a long time to start, that is in some way 
>>related to the warning you have quoted?
>
>That's the logs I get when I try to connect to gnome-remote-desktop. 
>On the client I'm asked to enter user, password and domain, once done 
>I get a blank screen and those logs appear on the server.

OK, if the user-visible symptom is "I try to remote-control my computer 
with gnome-remote-desktop and the result is a blank screen", please 
start with that. Package maintainers cannot know that you are using 
gnome-remote-desktop unless you tell us!

Please try upgrading to the remote desktop server to 
gnome-remote-desktop 48.1-4 (currently in unstable but not in testing) 
which is known to fix a bad interaction with newer versions of Mesa, 
then reboot the remote desktop server and try connecting to it again.

If that is not successful, please describe the steps to reproduce the 
problem you are seeing, without assuming that the package maintainers 
know everything about your computer. You must have done some 
configuration to make your computer offer remote desktop access - 
please describe how you achieved that. The reason I ask for this is 
that there is more than one way to use gnome-remote-desktop.

Remote-controlling a GNOME system with gnome-remote-desktop is not the 
typical configuration: the typical configuration is to plug in a screen 
and keyboard, and use it locally. You also seem to be using 
gnome-remote-desktop in a less-common way where you are creating a 
"headless" UI session, rather than sharing an existing GUI session.

If you are reporting a bug and you want it to be solvable, please always 
start with:

- what you did (how you configured the system), and especially anything
   that you did that is unusual, like:
     - installing on Apple hardware using an unofficial version of Debian;
     - using gnome-remote-desktop rather than a locally connected screen
       and keyboard
- what you expected to happen
- what actually happened

The warning message logged by xdg-desktop-portal does not necessarily 
have anything to do with you seeing a blank screen. It is potentially 
useful information, but also potentially misleading, so we should start 
by getting the full facts.

So let's start again: if you had provided that information at the 
beginning, what would you have said?

Also please note that the "Bananas" port for Apple M1/M2 hardware is not 
an official part of Debian, and relies on components that are not part 
of Debian. I don't know how much of it is expected to work, and probably 
some of it is known not to be ready at the moment. If you are not 
already an experienced Debian user, I would recommend trying it on x86 
hardware (like an old laptop) first.

Because gnome-remote-desktop interacts with video rendering, it is 
dependent on the unofficial kernel and Mesa graphics stack provided by 
"Bananas", which is not part of Debian.

Other log messages that could be particularly relevant include:

> juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
...
> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-de[16112]: [DaemonSystem] Aborting handover, removing remote client with remote id /org/gnome/RemoteDesktop/Client/972001666
> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: [18:39:34:766] [16112:00003ef0] [ERROR][com.freerdp.core.peer] - [rdp_set_error_info]: ERRINFO_CB_CONNECTION_CANCELLED [0x00010409]

(note for cc'd maintainers: there is a more full log in a previous 
message on the bug)

     smcv

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#1252447 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-11 19:10 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L7pq2-gSUc-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252445
Le 11/07/2025 à 17:56, Simon McVittie a écrit :
> Control: retitle -1 gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after 
> connecting to Mac Mini M2
> Control: reassign -1 gnome-remote-desktop
> Control: affects -1 + asahi-platform
> Control: severity -1 normal
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 16:22:49 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>> Le 11/07/2025 à 16:11, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>> What I should have asked at the beginning is:
>>>
>>> Is there a user-visible symptom that you are reporting, like some 
>>> program crashing or taking a long time to start, that is in some way 
>>> related to the warning you have quoted?
>>
>> That's the logs I get when I try to connect to gnome-remote-desktop. 
>> On the client I'm asked to enter user, password and domain, once done 
>> I get a blank screen and those logs appear on the server.
>
> OK, if the user-visible symptom is "I try to remote-control my 
> computer with gnome-remote-desktop and the result is a blank screen", 
> please start with that. Package maintainers cannot know that you are 
> using gnome-remote-desktop unless you tell us!
If you read carefully the logs I sended at the time I opened this bug, 
g-r-d is clearly mentioned as well as the linux kernel version 
indicating asahi
>
> Please try upgrading to the remote desktop server to 
> gnome-remote-desktop 48.1-4 (currently in unstable but not in testing) 
> which is known to fix a bad interaction with newer versions of Mesa, 
> then reboot the remote desktop server and try connecting to it again.

This after trying remmina from Ubuntu 24.04.

dh@apple ~ $ systemctl status gnome-remote-desktop
● gnome-remote-desktop.service - GNOME Remote Desktop
      Loaded: loaded 
(/usr/lib/systemd/system/gnome-remote-desktop.service; enabled; preset: 
enabled)
      Active: active (running) since Fri 2025-07-11 18:16:49 CEST; 7min ago
  Invocation: 80894c50e6d846c49cdab9a709139bf6
    Main PID: 810 (gnome-remote-de)
       Tasks: 4 (limit: 4508)
      Memory: 40M (peak: 45.6M)
         CPU: 42ms
      CGroup: /system.slice/gnome-remote-desktop.service
              └─810 /usr/libexec/gnome-remote-desktop-daemon --system

juil. 11 18:16:48 apple systemd[1]: Starting 
gnome-remote-desktop.service - GNOME Remote Desktop...
juil. 11 18:16:49 apple gnome-remote-de[810]: Init TPM credentials 
failed because No TPM device found, using GKeyFile as fallback
juil. 11 18:16:49 apple systemd[1]: Started gnome-remote-desktop.service 
- GNOME Remote Desktop.
juil. 11 18:17:04 apple gnome-remote-de[810]: RDP server started
juil. 11 18:17:45 apple gnome-remote-de[810]: [RDP] Client did not 
advertise support for the Graphics Pipeline, closing connection
juil. 11 18:17:45 apple gnome-remote-de[810]: [RDP] Network or 
intentional disconnect, stopping session
juil. 11 18:17:45 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[810]: [18:17:45:387] 
[810:00001e20] [ERROR][com.freerdp.api] - 
[rdp_peer_handle_state_demand_active]: 
[CONNECTION_STATE_CAPABILITIES_EXCHANGE_DEMAND_ACTIVE] 
freerdp_peer::Capabilities() callback failed
juil. 11 18:17:45 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[810]: [18:17:45:387] 
[810:00001e20] [ERROR][com.freerdp.core.transport] - 
[transport_check_fds]: transport_check_fds: transport->ReceiveCallback() 
- STATE_RUN_FAILED [-1]

Test trom MBA M1 under Trixie Asahi Linux ask me to enter credentials 
and then got a blankscreen. Attached you will fing logs from this second 
attempt.

>
> If that is not successful, please describe the steps to reproduce the 
> problem you are seeing, without assuming that the package maintainers 
> know everything about your computer. You must have done some 
> configuration to make your computer offer remote desktop access - 
> please describe how you achieved that. The reason I ask for this is 
> that there is more than one way to use gnome-remote-desktop.

install xtask-cinnamon-desktop
tried X11vnc wich was working

Now knowing that trixie is Wayland only, I installed gnome
install xtask-gnome-desktop

 From here nothing more that trying to connect from 2 others notebook in 
RDP knowing that Debian removed VNC from g-r-d
I tried wayvnc+wayfire and could not get it work, always getting "wayvnc 
virtual pointer protocol not supported by compositor"

>
> Remote-controlling a GNOME system with gnome-remote-desktop is not the 
> typical configuration: the typical configuration is to plug in a 
> screen and keyboard, and use it locally.
Sure. On this computer I installed X11Vnc, Meshcentral and Rustdesk, all 
running well under X11. Rustdesk is running also under Wayland
> You also seem to be using gnome-remote-desktop in a less-common way 
> where you are creating a "headless" UI session, rather than sharing an 
> existing GUI session.
If you tell it, I believe you. I didn't do anything more that the steps 
above as far as I remember.
>
> If you are reporting a bug and you want it to be solvable, please 
> always start with:
>
> - what you did (how you configured the system), and especially anything
>   that you did that is unusual, like:
>     - installing on Apple hardware using an unofficial version of Debian;
>     - using gnome-remote-desktop rather than a locally connected screen
>       and keyboard
> - what you expected to happen
> - what actually happened
>
> The warning message logged by xdg-desktop-portal does not necessarily 
> have anything to do with you seeing a blank screen. It is potentially 
> useful information, but also potentially misleading, so we should 
> start by getting the full facts.
>
> So let's start again: if you had provided that information at the 
> beginning, what would you have said?
Trying to use g-r-d finish with a blank screen on the client and those 
are the logs I see (those sended on original message)
>
> Also please note that the "Bananas" port for Apple M1/M2 hardware is 
> not an official part of Debian, and relies on components that are not 
> part of Debian. I don't know how much of it is expected to work, and 
> probably some of it is known not to be ready at the moment. If you are 
> not already an experienced Debian user, I would recommend trying it on 
> x86 hardware (like an old laptop) first.

I use Asahi/Linux Debian on an MBA M1 since 2 and  a half year, was 
under bookworm at first, now Ttrixie. If you check actual stand of 
bananas, a debian-installer is existing. I'm connected to the team via 
#debian-bananas and doing some tests -I'm not the only one- for them. So 
no, will not change to x86-hardware. Anyway, I write this message and 
all others before with a Dell XPS 13 7390 Ubuntu 24.04

If you really fill that this case shouldn't be, feel free to close this 
bug, I can live with.

Thanks for your help

>
> Because gnome-remote-desktop interacts with video rendering, it is 
> dependent on the unofficial kernel and Mesa graphics stack provided by 
> "Bananas", which is not part of Debian.
>
> Other log messages that could be particularly relevant include:
>
>> juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>> [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - 
>> [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
> ...
>> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-de[16112]: [DaemonSystem] 
>> Aborting handover, removing remote client with remote id 
>> /org/gnome/RemoteDesktop/Client/972001666
>> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>> [18:39:34:766] [16112:00003ef0] [ERROR][com.freerdp.core.peer] - 
>> [rdp_set_error_info]: ERRINFO_CB_CONNECTION_CANCELLED [0x00010409]
>
> (note for cc'd maintainers: there is a more full log in a previous 
> message on the bug)
>
>     smcv

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#1252449 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-11 19:20 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L7pzH-gSXH-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252447
To clarify, a monitor, keyboard and mouse are connected to the mini M2

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#1252450 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromNoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org>
Date2025-07-11 19:20 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L7pzH-gSXH-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252447
Hi all.

I'll get to this bug when I find some time to see if there's any 
indication that it affects our port and not parts of the stack which are 
in Debian. Until then please note that

On 11/07/25 18:58, Daniel wrote:
> If you check actual stand of bananas, a debian-installer is existing.

no, we don't have a debian-installer. In the context of reporting bugs 
to Debian proper, e.g. by using the BTS, there is one and only 
debian-installer, and that does not support Apple Silicon. The Bananas 
Team has *an* installer, which is not the debian-installer, that uses 
custom packages, including the kernel, to install Debian on Apple 
machines. For more details see [1].

Will get back to this,

Cheers (for now)

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2025/06/msg00241.html

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#1253135 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromDaniel <tech@tootai.net>
Date2025-07-18 11:40 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L9PJn-Rqu-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252445
After a re-installation from scratch problem disappear, g-r-d is working.

Seems that apt install task-gnome-desktop don't do the complete job.

Le 11/07/2025 à 17:56, Simon McVittie a écrit :
> Control: retitle -1 gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after 
> connecting to Mac Mini M2
> Control: reassign -1 gnome-remote-desktop
> Control: affects -1 + asahi-platform
> Control: severity -1 normal
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 at 16:22:49 +0200, Daniel wrote:
>> Le 11/07/2025 à 16:11, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>> What I should have asked at the beginning is:
>>>
>>> Is there a user-visible symptom that you are reporting, like some 
>>> program crashing or taking a long time to start, that is in some way 
>>> related to the warning you have quoted?
>>
>> That's the logs I get when I try to connect to gnome-remote-desktop. 
>> On the client I'm asked to enter user, password and domain, once done 
>> I get a blank screen and those logs appear on the server.
>
> OK, if the user-visible symptom is "I try to remote-control my 
> computer with gnome-remote-desktop and the result is a blank screen", 
> please start with that. Package maintainers cannot know that you are 
> using gnome-remote-desktop unless you tell us!
>
> Please try upgrading to the remote desktop server to 
> gnome-remote-desktop 48.1-4 (currently in unstable but not in testing) 
> which is known to fix a bad interaction with newer versions of Mesa, 
> then reboot the remote desktop server and try connecting to it again.
>
> If that is not successful, please describe the steps to reproduce the 
> problem you are seeing, without assuming that the package maintainers 
> know everything about your computer. You must have done some 
> configuration to make your computer offer remote desktop access - 
> please describe how you achieved that. The reason I ask for this is 
> that there is more than one way to use gnome-remote-desktop.
>
> Remote-controlling a GNOME system with gnome-remote-desktop is not the 
> typical configuration: the typical configuration is to plug in a 
> screen and keyboard, and use it locally. You also seem to be using 
> gnome-remote-desktop in a less-common way where you are creating a 
> "headless" UI session, rather than sharing an existing GUI session.
>
> If you are reporting a bug and you want it to be solvable, please 
> always start with:
>
> - what you did (how you configured the system), and especially anything
>   that you did that is unusual, like:
>     - installing on Apple hardware using an unofficial version of Debian;
>     - using gnome-remote-desktop rather than a locally connected screen
>       and keyboard
> - what you expected to happen
> - what actually happened
>
> The warning message logged by xdg-desktop-portal does not necessarily 
> have anything to do with you seeing a blank screen. It is potentially 
> useful information, but also potentially misleading, so we should 
> start by getting the full facts.
>
> So let's start again: if you had provided that information at the 
> beginning, what would you have said?
>
> Also please note that the "Bananas" port for Apple M1/M2 hardware is 
> not an official part of Debian, and relies on components that are not 
> part of Debian. I don't know how much of it is expected to work, and 
> probably some of it is known not to be ready at the moment. If you are 
> not already an experienced Debian user, I would recommend trying it on 
> x86 hardware (like an old laptop) first.
>
> Because gnome-remote-desktop interacts with video rendering, it is 
> dependent on the unofficial kernel and Mesa graphics stack provided by 
> "Bananas", which is not part of Debian.
>
> Other log messages that could be particularly relevant include:
>
>> juil. 10 18:39:18 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>> [18:39:18:988] [16112:000458c4] [WARN][com.freerdp.core.server] - 
>> [WTSReceiveChannelData]: unknown channelId 1006 ignored
> ...
>> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-de[16112]: [DaemonSystem] 
>> Aborting handover, removing remote client with remote id 
>> /org/gnome/RemoteDesktop/Client/972001666
>> juil. 10 18:39:34 apple gnome-remote-desktop-daemon[16112]: 
>> [18:39:34:766] [16112:00003ef0] [ERROR][com.freerdp.core.peer] - 
>> [rdp_set_error_info]: ERRINFO_CB_CONNECTION_CANCELLED [0x00010409]
>
> (note for cc'd maintainers: there is a more full log in a previous 
> message on the bug)
>
>     smcv

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#1253163 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromNoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org>
Date2025-07-18 14:30 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L9SnU-T8X-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1253135
Control: affects -1 - asahi-platform

On 18/07/25 11:31, Daniel wrote:
> After a re-installation from scratch problem disappear, g-r-d is working.
> 
> Seems that apt install task-gnome-desktop don't do the complete job.

Thanks for reporting back! It's possible that some required dependency 
is missing when installing gnome via task-gnome-desktop.


P.S.: Simon, in the future feel free to tell our users to get in touch 
with us directly if you think a bug may only affect our port. I don't 
want to bother you with the details, but we have our own non-BTS bug 
trackers four our out-of-archive packages. asahi-platform only tracks 
packages in Debian proper, we're not using it as a catch-all 
pseudo-package. But of course, if you nonetheless need to catch our eye 
I understand it and will not be offended :-) Thanks for all the work!

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#1252551 — Bug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2

FromNoisyCoil <noisycoil@tutanota.com>
Date2025-07-12 17:00 +0200
SubjectBug#1109065: gnome-remote-desktop: blank screen after connecting to Mac Mini M2
Message-ID<L7JRM-h6hY-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1252344
Package: gnome-remote-desktop
Followup-For: Bug #1109065
X-Debbugs-Cc: noisycoil@tutanota.com, tech@tootai.net

Hi all,

I'm afraid I can't reproduce this bug on an M1 Mac Mini and on an M1 Pro
MacBookPro. Using the same kernel and mesa drivers as the submitter, I
successfully started gnome-remote-desktop (48.1-2) on both, connected from the
other using both remmina and gnome-connections and controlled the desktop
remotely. Both systems run GNOME 48. The only time I saw a blank screen was
when the server was sleeping.

This doesn't exclude something may be off with M2s, but I have no indication
currently that M2s should have different behavior. I'll ask someone from the
Team with an M2 to check this out.


Cheers!

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