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Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script

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  Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script Matthias Geiger <werdahias@debian.org> - 2025-02-02 14:10 +0100
    Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> - 2025-02-03 10:10 +0100
      Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script Matthias Geiger <werdahias@riseup.net> - 2025-02-03 13:40 +0100
        Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2025-02-26 20:30 +0100

#1231407 — Bug#1095001: minetest-server: Please consider adding init script

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Package: orphan-sysvinit-scripts
Version: 0.17
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
X-Debbugs-Cc: werdahias@debian.org

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Dear maintainer,

minetest-server dropped its init script in the latest version 
(https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/minetest/-/commit/b4a3c331810668f75552f0a7e7d0a4e9cd401541)
Please consider including thhe script in o-s-s.
I attached it for your convenience.

best,

werdahias


- -- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 6.12.10-amd64 (SMP w/16 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: OpenRC (via /run/openrc), PID 1: init
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages orphan-sysvinit-scripts depends on:
ii  ucf  3.0049

orphan-sysvinit-scripts recommends no packages.

orphan-sysvinit-scripts suggests no packages.

- -- no debconf information

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#1231536

On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 02:06:10PM +0100, Matthias Geiger wrote:
> Package: orphan-sysvinit-scripts
> Version: 0.17
> Severity: normal
> Tags: patch
> X-Debbugs-Cc: werdahias@debian.org
> 
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> 
> Dear maintainer,
> 
> minetest-server dropped its init script in the latest version 
> (https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/minetest/-/commit/b4a3c331810668f75552f0a7e7d0a4e9cd401541)

AFAICS, this hasn't been uploaded, so now is an ideal time to ask for them to
revert the change with an explanation why.

The commit says

 Debian now primarily uses systemd, so reduce maintenance burden a bit.

So there is acceptance that non-systemd Debian still exists and it doesn't
reduce the maintenance burded, it just transfers and increases it elsewhere!

Mark

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#1231576

On Mon, 03 Feb 2025 09:56, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 02:06:10PM +0100, Matthias Geiger wrote:
>> Package: orphan-sysvinit-scripts
>> Version: 0.17
>> Severity: normal
>> Tags: patch
>> X-Debbugs-Cc: werdahias@debian.org
>> 
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA256
>> 
>> Dear maintainer,
>> 
>> minetest-server dropped its init script in the latest version 
>> (https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/minetest/-/commit/b4a3c331810668f75552f0a7e7d0a4e9cd401541)
>
>AFAICS, this hasn't been uploaded, so now is an ideal time to ask for them to
>revert the change with an explanation why.
>
>The commit says
>
> Debian now primarily uses systemd, so reduce maintenance burden a bit.
>
>So there is acceptance that non-systemd Debian still exists and it doesn't
>reduce the maintenance burded, it just transfers and increases it elsewhere!
>
Hi Mark,

you're right. I filed #1095068 to ask the maintainers to revert this. 
The version with the removed init script is currently in NEW pending 
review.

best,

werdahias

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#1235160

control: tags -1 + moreinfo

On 03/02/2025 12:26, Matthias Geiger wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Feb 2025 09:56, Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 02, 2025 at 02:06:10PM +0100, Matthias Geiger wrote:

>>> minetest-server dropped its init script in the latest version 
>>> (https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/minetest/-/commit/ 
>>> b4a3c331810668f75552f0a7e7d0a4e9cd401541)
>>
>> AFAICS, this hasn't been uploaded, so now is an ideal time to ask for 
>> them to
>> revert the change with an explanation why.
>>
>> The commit says
>>
>> Debian now primarily uses systemd, so reduce maintenance burden a bit.
>>
>> So there is acceptance that non-systemd Debian still exists and it 
>> doesn't
>> reduce the maintenance burded, it just transfers and increases it 
>> elsewhere!
>>
> Hi Mark,
> 
> you're right. I filed #1095068 to ask the maintainers to revert this. 
> The version with the removed init script is currently in NEW pending 
> review.

Looking at #1095068, the maintainers of minetest-server claim that the 
init script isn't compatible with the latest version of minetest-server.

Do you have an init script that you've tested works with 5.8.0 or 
ideally 5.10 of minetest-server / luanti-server, please?

Thanks,

Matthew

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