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Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

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  Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2025-04-11 17:20 +0200
    Bug#1100598: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 18:00 +0200
      Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2025-04-11 18:10 +0200
        Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian? Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2025-04-11 18:20 +0200

#1241500 — Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

Control: severity -1 important

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:08 AM Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> wrote:
> What is the benefit of removing random leaf packages when the stated
> goal is impossible?

I think it was appropriate for these packages to be removed from
Testing because of https://bugs.debian.org/1084089

However, the Debian Release Team replied there yesterday and it looks
like that is no longer RC for Trixie. Therefore, I am downgrading.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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#1241510 — Bug#1100598: Bug#1100597: opencl-clang-1{7,8}: remove from Debian?

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:14:19AM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
> Control: severity -1 important
> 
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:08 AM Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> wrote:
> > What is the benefit of removing random leaf packages when the stated
> > goal is impossible?
> 
> I think it was appropriate for these packages to be removed from
> Testing because of https://bugs.debian.org/1084089
>...

It is usually not very helpful to get non-key leaf packages removed 
without an idea what the hardest part of a removal is and a plan for
that.

Filing an RC bug against opencl-clang-18 doesn't make much sense without 
filing an RC bug against ghc.

Usually a good starting point is asking what you have to do to make a 
package a non-key package.

Removing non-key packages does not help with that.

> Thank you,
> Jeremy Bícha

cu
Adrian

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#1241512

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:51 AM Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> wrote:
> It is usually not very helpful to get non-key leaf packages removed
> without an idea what the hardest part of a removal is and a plan for
> that.

I was just trying to help with https://bugs.debian.org/1081250 which
shows up at https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.html

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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#1241516

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 12:02:01PM -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 11:51 AM Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> wrote:
> > It is usually not very helpful to get non-key leaf packages removed
> > without an idea what the hardest part of a removal is and a plan for
> > that.
> 
> I was just trying to help with https://bugs.debian.org/1081250 which
> shows up at https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.html

I was just trying to help by doing QA work on bugs that show up
at https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/autoremovals.cgi?sort=time

> Thank you,
> Jeremy Bícha

cu
Adrian

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