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Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool

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  Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us> - 2024-09-05 06:20 +0200
    Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool Jeroen Ploemen <jcfp@debian.org> - 2024-09-06 10:40 +0200
    Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2024-09-23 07:20 +0200
    Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool Jeroen Ploemen <jcfp@debian.org> - 2024-09-23 18:40 +0200
      Add documentation regarding `-1` argument Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-09-23 19:40 +0200
        Re: Add documentation regarding `-1` argument Soren Stoutner <soren@smallbusinesstech.net> - 2024-09-23 21:20 +0200
          Re: Add documentation regarding `-1` argument Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2024-09-26 07:10 +0200
    Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool Yavor Doganov <yavor@gnu.org> - 2024-09-24 09:20 +0200

#1211525 — Bug#1080498: RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 [ITA] -- package change history notification tool

Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: normal

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for apt-listchanges. Russ Allbery has been
handling this for me but has recently indicated that he no longer has
the bandwidth to continue doing so.

 * Package name     : apt-listchanges
   Version          : 4.5
   Upstream contact : N/A
 * URL              : N/A
 * License          : GPL-2+
 * Vcs              : https://salsa.debian.org/debian/apt-listchanges/
   Section          : utils

The source builds the following binary packages:

  apt-listchanges - package change history notification tool

To access further information about this package, please visit the following URL:

  https://mentors.debian.net/package/apt-listchanges/

Alternatively, you can download the package with 'dget' using this command:

  dget -x https://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/a/apt-listchanges/apt-listchanges_4.5.dsc

Changes since the last upload:

apt-listchanges (4.5) experimental; urgency=medium

  * If the user has the `confirm` feature enabled and aborts the upgrade,
    the changes they were shown should be shown to them again when they
    rerun the upgrade. This restores the previous behavior, which was
    unintentionally changed in version 4.3.
  * Special-case handling of changelogs for `linux-image-*` packages to
    prevent us from displaying changelog entries we shouldn't, by trusting
    the version number sequencing in those changelogs.
    (Closes: #1055780)
  * Display binary NMU changelog entries. (Closes: #1063677)
  * Document the systemd timer and service in the man page, and reference
    the man page from the systemd unit files so it is displayed when
    someone does `systemctl help apt-listchanges.timer` or `systemctl help
    apt-listchanges.service`.
  * Update the man page to make it clear that `--which=news` is only the
    default when running as an APT plugin; otherwise the default is
    `--which=both`. (Closes: #1052514)
  * Updated program translations: Brazilian Portuguese courtesy of Carlos
    Henrique Lima Melara, Catalan courtesy of Carles Pina i Estany, Czech
    courtesy of Miroslav Kure, Dutch courtesy of Frans Spiesschaert,
    French courtesy of Jean-Pierre Giraud.
    (Closes: #1055127, #1055180, #1055239, #1056772)
  * Updated man page translations: Dutch courtesy of Frans Spiesschaert,
    French courtesy of Jean-Pierre Giraud. (Closes: #1055182, #1055240)
  * Updated Swedish debconf translation courtesy of Martin Bagge.
    (Closes: #1059225)

 -- Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us>  Sat, 31 Aug 2024 20:22:51 -0400

Regards,
-- 
  Jonathan Kamens

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#1211649

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Control: tags -1 moreinfo
Control: retitle -1 RFS: apt-listchanges/4.5 -- package change history notification tool

On Thu, 05 Sep 2024 00:12:04 -0400 Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us>
wrote:

> I am looking for a sponsor for apt-listchanges.

hi Jonathan,

took a look at apt-listchanges and some minor issues came up:

* copyright: missing copyright holders for multiple translations and
  documentation files
* control: X-Python3-Version specifies a Python version last seen in
  buster and is probably redundant
* tests: consider adding an autopkgtest ('Testsuite:
  autopkgtest-pkg-pybuild' in d/control is all it takes!)

Other than that, things look fine to me.

Your RFS mail is tagged ITA, but the maintainer change seems to have
been dealt with many revision ago.

Any particular reason for continuing to upload to experimental only,
now that version 4.x has been out for about a year with nothing major
reported in the bug tracker?


Please remove the moreinfo tag (and CC me) once you have an updated
package ready.

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#1214004

On 2024-09-22 Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us> wrote:
> On 9/6/24 4:36 AM, Jeroen Ploemen wrote:
[...]
> > Any particular reason for continuing to upload to experimental only,
> > now that version 4.x has been out for about a year with nothing major
> > reported in the bug tracker?
> You're correct, I believe it's time for unstable.

Hello,

imho 1055780 is a very major issue. (The new upload is supposed to
handle that.)

cu Andreas
-- 
`What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are
so grateful to you.'
`I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'

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#1214042

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Uploaded, thanks!


On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 06:02:19 -0400
Jonathan Kamens <jik@kamens.us> wrote:

> I gather from context that the "-1" here refers to the bug that the 
> email is being sent to, and indeed I use this in my Control: header 
> above to remove the moreinfo tag as you requested, but despite
> searching all over for the life of me I can't find where this fact
> is explicitly documented anywhere. Do you happen to know?

Not really, only seems to be mentioned in an example at [1].

> > * tests: consider adding an autopkgtest ('Testsuite:
> >    autopkgtest-pkg-pybuild' in d/control is all it takes!)  
> I don't 100% understand what this does, but I mostly understand it
> and in any case it certainly doesn't do any harm to add it so I've
> done that, thanks.

It automagically runs the same tests pybuild runs on package build in
an autopkgtest context; see docs at [2] and CI results at [3].


[1]https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#clone
[2]https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/dh-python/-/blob/master/pybuild-autopkgtest.rst?ref_type=heads
[3]https://salsa.debian.org/debian/apt-listchanges/-/jobs/6317784#L315

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#1214051 — Add documentation regarding `-1` argument

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On Monday, September 23, 2024 9:34:30 AM MST Jeroen Ploemen wrote:
> > I gather from context that the "-1" here refers to the bug that the 
> > email is being sent to, and indeed I use this in my Control: header 
> > above to remove the moreinfo tag as you requested, but despite
> > searching all over for the life of me I can't find where this fact
> > is explicitly documented anywhere. Do you happen to know?
> 
> Not really, only seems to be mentioned in an example at [1].
>
> [1]https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#clone

Would somebody who has access to edit https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control
please add documentation for the `-1` argument.

Thank you.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

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#1214061 — Re: Add documentation regarding `-1` argument

On Monday, September 23, 2024 11:04:36 AM MST Jeremy Sowden wrote:
> On 2024-09-23, at 10:36:43 -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > On Monday, September 23, 2024 9:34:30 AM MST Jeroen Ploemen wrote:
> > > > I gather from context that the "-1" here refers to the bug that
> > > > the email is being sent to, and indeed I use this in my Control:
> > > > header above to remove the moreinfo tag as you requested, but
> > > > despite searching all over for the life of me I can't find where
> > > > this fact is explicitly documented anywhere. Do you happen to
> > > > know?
> > > 
> > > Not really, only seems to be mentioned in an example at [1].
> > > 
> > > [1]https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#clone
> > 
> > Would somebody who has access to edit
> > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control please add documentation
> > for the `-1` argument.
> 
> It's mentioned in the "Control Commands" of
> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
> 
> J.

Thanks for pointing that out.  I had not seen that before.  And it is useful 
there.

However, that page is entitled, "How to report a bug in Debian using 
reportbug".  It would be valuable to document it on https://www.debian.org/
Bugs/server-control entitled "Introduction to the bug control and manipulation 
mailserver" as users are unlikely to be searching for information about how to 
manipulate an existing bug on a page with instructions on how to report a new 
bug.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
Small Business Tech Solutions
623-262-6169
soren@smallbusinesstech.net

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#1214292 — Re: Add documentation regarding `-1` argument

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> However, that page is entitled, "How to report a bug in Debian using
> reportbug". It would be valuable to document it on
> https://www.debian.org/ Bugs/server-control entitled "Introduction to
> the bug control and manipulation mailserver" as users are unlikely to
> be searching for information about how to manipulate an existing bug
> on a page with instructions on how to report a new bug.

The bug control mailserver is control@bugs.debian.org, for which -1
doesn't apply unless you've used `clone`.

The initial population of -1 only applies to the Control: pseudoheader,
and that pseudoheader is documented here: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#control

It seems reasonable to
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#followup to
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#control (and the other
pseudoheaders that are valid for follow up messages), but that
documentation doesn't belong in the server-control documentation.


-- 
Don Armstrong                      https://www.donarmstrong.com

I learned really early the difference between knowing the name of
something and knowing something
 -- Richard Feynman "What is Science" Phys. Teach. 7(6) 1969

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#1214087

Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> (But I do not actually agree that 1055780 this is a major issue,
> because it only impacts people who configure apt-listchanges to
> display changelogs rather than news during upgrades, which is not the
> default and few users actually do because it is far too much
> information for most users.)

I don't think there's a reliable way to determine how many users use
this configuration.  FWIW, I use it on all my machines since the
inception of apt-listchanges (debchanges).

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