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Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386

Started byJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
First post2023-12-04 14:50 +0100
Last post2023-12-20 15:30 +0100
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  Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386 Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2023-12-04 14:50 +0100
    Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386 Sune Stolborg Vuorela <sune@debian.org> - 2023-12-20 11:10 +0100
      Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386 Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2023-12-20 15:40 +0100
        Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386 Sune Stolborg Vuorela <sune@debian.org> - 2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
    Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386 Jeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com> - 2023-12-20 15:30 +0100

#1177190 — Bug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386

FromJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
Date2023-12-04 14:50 +0100
SubjectBug#1057407: texworks: Intent to drop poppler-qt6 on i386
Message-ID<HHhuF-b5fT-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Source: texworks
Version: 0.6.8-3
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-CC: hille42@web.de

As the maintainer of Debian's poppler source package, I would like to
drop poppler's Qt6 packages on i386. This would allow Debian's and
Ubuntu's poppler packaging to be in sync. Ubuntu has dropped i386
support except for enablement of games and similar legacy apps but
none of those apps need Qt6. Based on debian-devel discussion in June,
I expect Debian to eventually take a similar approach to i386.

texworks is the only package that uses poppler's Qt6 in Debian. Please
let me know if it's ok with you if texworks is no longer built for
i386 in Debian.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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#1179455

FromSune Stolborg Vuorela <sune@debian.org>
Date2023-12-20 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<HN1Gx-ePOr-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1177190
On Monday, December 4, 2023 2:43:46 PM CET Jeremy Bícha wrote:

> As the maintainer of Debian's poppler source package, I would like to
> drop poppler's Qt6 packages on i386. This would allow Debian's and
> Ubuntu's poppler packaging to be in sync. Ubuntu has dropped i386
> support except for enablement of games and similar legacy apps but
> none of those apps need Qt6. Based on debian-devel discussion in June,
> I expect Debian to eventually take a similar approach to i386.

I think this should wait until Debian has taken such approach.

> texworks is the only package that uses poppler's Qt6 in Debian. Please
> let me know if it's ok with you if texworks is no longer built for
> i386 in Debian.

I would expect most poppler-qt5 using packages to switch to poppler-qt6 over 
the next 6 months. Especially I expect Okular, KDE's document viewer to switch 
over in beginning of march, and I don't expect us to drop that yet.

/Sune
-- 
I didn’t stop pretending when I became an adult, it’s just that when I was a 
kid I was pretending that I fit into the rules and structures of this world. 
And now that I’m an adult, I pretend that those rules and structures exist.
   - zefrank

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#1179512

FromJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
Date2023-12-20 15:40 +0100
Message-ID<HN5TP-eSCI-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1179455
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 4:57 AM Sune Stolborg Vuorela <sune@debian.org> wrote:
> I would expect most poppler-qt5 using packages to switch to poppler-qt6 over
> the next 6 months. Especially I expect Okular, KDE's document viewer to switch
> over in beginning of march, and I don't expect us to drop that yet.

It is fine that poppler qt5 apps switch to poppler qt6. I do not see
any need for those apps to built on i386 since i386 is not intended to
be a full, directly installable desktop architecture in the next
stable Debian release. I do not see any usecase for okular i386 to be
available on an amd64 system.

Please read https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/12/msg00003.html
if you have not already.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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#1179521

FromSune Stolborg Vuorela <sune@debian.org>
Date2023-12-20 17:00 +0100
Message-ID<HN79f-eTir-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1179512
On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 3:28:26 PM CET Jeremy Bícha wrote:

> It is fine that poppler qt5 apps switch to poppler qt6. I do not see
> any need for those apps to built on i386 since i386 is not intended to
> be a full, directly installable desktop architecture in the next
> stable Debian release. I do not see any usecase for okular i386 to be
> available on an amd64 system.

Then I think you should drop anything except poppler-utils and libpoppler141 
at once rather than trying to slice it like this. 

I see just as much need for poppler-qt6 as I do for poppler-glib and poppler-
qt5.

/Sune
-- 
I didn’t stop pretending when I became an adult, it’s just that when I was a 
kid I was pretending that I fit into the rules and structures of this world. 
And now that I’m an adult, I pretend that those rules and structures exist.
   - zefrank

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#1179511

FromJeremy Bícha <jeremy.bicha@canonical.com>
Date2023-12-20 15:30 +0100
Message-ID<HN5K9-eSzI-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1177190
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 6:02 PM Hilmar Preuße <hille42@web.de> wrote:
> As no package depend on texworks, I'll drop i386 as requested. If you
> have a patch for me I'll be glad.

My plan is to first get a newer poppler from Experimental into
Unstable. After that poppler transition completes, then I can stop
building poppler qt6 on i386 and ask the ftpmasters to remove poppler
qt6 on i386 and texworks on i386. I don't think there is anything we
need to do to the texworks packaging; texworks will just be in depwait
status on i386.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

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