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Bug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional

Started byJosh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
First post2023-04-23 07:50 +0200
Last post2023-06-07 18:10 +0200
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  Bug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> - 2023-04-23 07:50 +0200
    Bug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional Agustin Martin <agmartin@debian.org> - 2023-04-25 09:40 +0200
      Bug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional Agustin Martin <agmartin@debian.org> - 2023-06-07 18:10 +0200

#1144719 — Bug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional

FromJosh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Date2023-04-23 07:50 +0200
SubjectBug#1034744: Please consider making emacs support optional
Message-ID<GnALL-3TUU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
Package: dictionaries-common
Version: 1.29.5
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: josh@joshtriplett.org

As far as I can tell, the support provided by dictionaries-common makes
emacs better if installed, but isn't needed if an emacs isn't installed.
The maintainer scripts correctly check to see if the necessary binaries
are installed before invoking them. Would it be possible to change the
emacsen-common Depends to a Recommends?

dictionaries-common is the only thing on my system pulling in the
emacsen-common machinery, and dictionaries-common is in turn a
dependency of required packages for various other programs.

Thank you,
Josh Triplett

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#1144863

FromAgustin Martin <agmartin@debian.org>
Date2023-04-25 09:40 +0200
Message-ID<Golrj-4n54-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1144719
El dom, 23 abr 2023 a las 7:45, Josh Triplett
(<josh@joshtriplett.org>) escribió:
>
> Package: dictionaries-common
> Version: 1.29.5
> Severity: wishlist
> X-Debbugs-Cc: josh@joshtriplett.org
>
> As far as I can tell, the support provided by dictionaries-common makes
> emacs better if installed, but isn't needed if an emacs isn't installed.
> The maintainer scripts correctly check to see if the necessary binaries
> are installed before invoking them. Would it be possible to change the
> emacsen-common Depends to a Recommends?

Hi, Josh,

This is mandated by emacsen-common policy, point 5C

/usr/share/doc/emacsen-common/debian-emacs-policy.gz

AFAIR, this is done to ensure that emacsen-common is configured before
add-on package is configured. This was discussed in a rather old
thread started by
https://lists.debian.org/debian-emacsen/2010/07/msg00000.html

> dictionaries-common is the only thing on my system pulling in the
> emacsen-common machinery, and dictionaries-common is in turn a
> dependency of required packages for various other programs.

emacsen-common is a rather small package with no dependencies, should
not be a big problem, this was considered a reasonable compromise by
emacs maintainer.

Regards,


--
Agustin

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#1148986

FromAgustin Martin <agmartin@debian.org>
Date2023-06-07 18:10 +0200
Message-ID<GE3Tr-ejCX-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
In reply to#1144863
Control: reassign -1 emacsen-common,dictionaries-common

El mar, 25 abr 2023 a las 9:29, Agustin Martin (<agmartin@debian.org>) escribió:
>
> El dom, 23 abr 2023 a las 7:45, Josh Triplett
> (<josh@joshtriplett.org>) escribió:
> >
> > Package: dictionaries-common
> > Version: 1.29.5
> > Severity: wishlist
> > X-Debbugs-Cc: josh@joshtriplett.org
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the support provided by dictionaries-common makes
> > emacs better if installed, but isn't needed if an emacs isn't installed.
> > The maintainer scripts correctly check to see if the necessary binaries
> > are installed before invoking them. Would it be possible to change the
> > emacsen-common Depends to a Recommends?
>
> Hi, Josh,
>
> This is mandated by emacsen-common policy, point 5C
>
> /usr/share/doc/emacsen-common/debian-emacs-policy.gz

Reassigning this bug report to both emacsen-common and
dictionaries-common, as dictionaries-common just follows
emacsen-common policy.

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