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Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful

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  Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2023-01-19 13:20 +0100
    Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2023-01-20 08:10 +0100
      Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful fabian@greffrath.com - 2023-01-20 09:10 +0100
    Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org> - 2023-01-20 08:10 +0100

#1133875 — Bug#983291: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#983291: fonts-noto-core: Excessive fonts bundles in fonts-noto-core make desired font selection painful

Quoting fabian@greffrath.com (2023-01-19 12:30:48)
> > I will *not* split the packaging of Noto fonts to optimize specifically
> > for Western society (i.e. Latin + Musical notes + emojis + math 
> > bundle).
> 
> While this for sure sounds noble at first sight, it's also just as 
> questionable.
> 
> I think it's safe to say that the Latin+Greek+Cyrillic variants of Noto 
> Sans and Serif (i.e. those without a suffix) are considered as general 
> purpose fonts and *all the others* which carry a specific suffix in 
> their names are considered as special cases.
> 
> I think splitting up the general purpose fonts from the specialized rest 
> is *at least* the one split that can be asked from this package. 
> Splitting the more specialized fonts up by "writing system" or whatever 
> may be left as an exercise. Apparently these splits aren't as "easy" or 
> unambigious as the aforementioned one, because literally nothing has 
> been undertaken in this regard since at least two years now.
> 
> It seems that this is another case where the perfect (split up by 
> writing system) is the enemy of the good (split up only the LGC fonts). 
> Seriously, we need a fonts-noto-latin or similar package, thanks!

The very purpose of Noto is to cover many scripts.

If you need latin-cyrillic-greek coverage, pick another o the many fonts
covering that smaller scope.


 - Jonas

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#1133966

Quoting Fabian Greffrath (2023-01-20 07:52:49)
> Am Donnerstag, dem 19.01.2023 um 13:12 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
> > The very purpose of Noto is to cover many scripts.
> > If you need latin-cyrillic-greek coverage, pick another o the many
> > fonts covering that smaller scope.
> 
> Sure, I was expecting a stubborn reply...
> 
> However, you contradict yourself here:
> 
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:19:02 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
> > I agree that it makes sense to split the Noto fonts into more packages.
> 
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 05:56:11 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
> > What I will do instead is generally split more fine-grained - for all 
> > all users globally to be able to mix and match.

I stand by those words, and see no contradiction.

Perhaps it helps (at least others following along here) to include the
sentence that I wrote just before the narrow you made above:

> I will *not* split the packaging of Noto fonts to optimize specifically
> for Western society (i.e. Latin + Musical notes + emojis + math bundle).


Kind regards,

 - Jonas

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#1133971

Am 20.01.2023 07:59, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
>> I will *not* split the packaging of Noto fonts to optimize 
>> specifically
>> for Western society (i.e. Latin + Musical notes + emojis + math 
>> bundle).

A split into "LCG" and "others" would be the first welcome step towards 
a more universal split by writing system - and actually the only split 
that people ever asked for regarding this package.

  - Fabian

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Am Donnerstag, dem 19.01.2023 um 13:12 +0100 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
> The very purpose of Noto is to cover many scripts.
> If you need latin-cyrillic-greek coverage, pick another o the many
> fonts covering that smaller scope.

Sure, I was expecting a stubborn reply...

However, you contradict yourself here:

On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 01:19:02 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
> I agree that it makes sense to split the Noto fonts into more packages.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 05:56:11 +0100 Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> wrote:
> What I will do instead is generally split more fine-grained - for all 
> all users globally to be able to mix and match.

 - Fabian

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