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Bug#996687: www.debian.org: Inconsistence between keymaps related packages on packages.debian and in apt searches

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  Bug#996687: www.debian.org: Inconsistence between keymaps related packages on packages.debian and in apt searches Stephane Ascoet <stephaneascoet@users.sourceforge.net> - 2021-10-17 13:10 +0200
    Bug#996687: www.debian.org: Inconsistence between keymaps related packages on packages.debian and in apt searches Holger Wansing <hwansing@mailbox.org> - 2021-10-17 20:50 +0200
      Bug#996687: www.debian.org: Inconsistence between keymaps related packages on packages.debian and in apt searches Stephane Ascoet <stephane.ascoet@univ-paris1.fr> - 2021-10-18 10:40 +0200

#1076291 — Bug#996687: www.debian.org: Inconsistence between keymaps related packages on packages.debian and in apt searches

Package: www.debian.org
Severity: minor

To install french keyboard support in Debian-live(having to do this is a first problem, the boot menu choice having only partial effect), I searched out how with "man loadkeys". I understood that keymaps where missing so I've searched "keymaps" on the packages Website(https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=keymaps). I get a list with 8 console-keymaps-* packages. But non of them can be installed via apt! I finally found the right virtual package with "aptitude search" but this inconstancy is abnormal, the online package search should be the mirror of the cli one



-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.8
  APT prefers oldoldstable
  APT policy: (500, 'oldoldstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

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#1076362

Hi,

Stephane Ascoet <stephaneascoet@users.sourceforge.net> wrote (Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:49:15 +0000):
> 
> To install french keyboard support in Debian-live(having to do this is a first problem, the boot menu choice having only partial effect), I searched out how with "man loadkeys". I understood that keymaps where missing so I've searched "keymaps" on the packages Website(https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=keymaps). I get a list with 8 console-keymaps-* packages. But non of them can be installed via apt! I finally found the right virtual package with "aptitude search" but this inconstancy is abnormal, the online package search should be the mirror of the cli one


The packages you found via packages.debian.org are 'udeb' packages: special
packages to be only used by the debian-installer; they are not meant to be
installed on a usual Debian system.
That's why apt does not provide them to you for installation.


I agree, that this is not obvious to users/newcomers: at the search result
list, you only see


Paket console-keymaps-acorn
bullseye (stable) (debian-installer): keymaps for Acorn RISC-PC keyboards 
2:1.12-8: all

Paket console-keymaps-amiga
bullseye (stable) (debian-installer): keymaps for Amiga keyboards 
2:1.12-8: all

Paket console-keymaps-at
bullseye (stable) (debian-installer): keymaps for PC-style (PS/2 and AT) keyboards 
2:1.12-8: all


and so on.

Users might overlook the "(debian-installer)" hint or don't understand its
meaning.


Holger


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#1076434

Le 17/10/2021 à 20:40, Holger Wansing a écrit :

>
> Users might overlook the "(debian-installer)" hint or don't understand its
> meaning.
>
>
> Holger
>
>
Hi, and thanks for your answer. I noticed it but for me, the fact that 
these packages are related to the installer doesn't mean that we 
couldn't install them later. And there's another problem: the virtual 
package "console-keymaps" I got in cli wasn't in this on-the-Web list!

-- 
Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet

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